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post #1 of 14 Old 01-18-2016, 08:05 AM Thread Starter
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Tubing bender options

I'm looking into purchasing a tubing bender for some small projects my buddies and I will be tackling in the next few months to a year... I've found quite a few of them and I'm unsure as to which one would the best "bang for the buck"... I think we will mainly be bending 1.5"-2.0" tubing, mainly for roll cages and maybe some tube flares and bumper hoops.

I saw this as an ad on facebook this morning...
https://www.roguefab.com/product-cat...ubing-benders/

I found these by a quick google search.
http://www.trick-tools.com/Manual_Benders_126

I'd like to stay around $500, but would spend a little more for something better. I have a harbor freight locally, but I've watched videos on youtube where their bender kinks the tube when trying to make sharper bends...

Also, one that has a build in notcher would be nice too!

Any help/tips is greatly appreciated


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post #2 of 14 Old 01-18-2016, 08:46 AM
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I would suggest something like the the Pro-tools type bender. There are several horz. or vert. version and they will all work.
The dies are going to cost almost as much as the bender, per die, they are not cheap.
Also buy the 180deg dies, don't cheap out on the 90. I have some of both and not that the 180 is used to it's full capacity very often, but when needed, it's nice to have.
I would suggest a hydraulic conversion, be it the HF air over hyd. ram conversion or a full on hyd. version. This will allow you to put wheels on the bender cart and not have to put mounting anchors in the floor.
If doing the HF air over ram, I prefer the Copperhead style (think they are out of business) but it mount the the bottom of the ram. Trick tool has a different style that grabs the cylinder. I'm sure Trick's works well but I had a homemade version that crushed the ram cylinder, just be careful if making a home version of the Trick.

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I would suggest something like the the Pro-tools type bender. There are several horz. or vert. version and they will all work.
The dies are going to cost almost as much as the bender, per die, they are not cheap.
Also buy the 180deg dies, don't cheap out on the 90. I have some of both and not that the 180 is used to it's full capacity very often, but when needed, it's nice to have.
I would suggest a hydraulic conversion, be it the HF air over hyd. ram conversion or a full on hyd. version. This will allow you to put wheels on the bender cart and not have to put mounting anchors in the floor.
If doing the HF air over ram, I prefer the Copperhead style (think they are out of business) but it mount the the bottom of the ram. Trick tool has a different style that grabs the cylinder. I'm sure Trick's works well but I had a homemade version that crushed the ram cylinder, just be careful if making a home version of the Trick.

Thanks for the info! I would definitely like to get some type of hydro assist, the one link I posted has a air/hydraulic set-up you can add for like $109, which I didn't think was too bad.

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I have the Rogue fab bender with a few dies...
When I bought it I felt it was the best 'bang for the buck' and liked how little space it uses being a vertical bender. My only issue with it is the HF ram. When I'm bending 1.75x.120 the ram is LOUD with a hard banging sound. I have replaced the ram a couple times, bled it, added fluid so I'm not sure why it does that. Others than that I've been happy with it.
I opted for the 6.0" CLR 1.75" die and happy I did too. Good luck!
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A quality manual bender, a single die, and a notcher will put you around a grand.. If you don't want to waste even more money learning/ wasting DOM I'd suggest something like Bendtech pro as well.
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A quality manual bender, a single die, and a notcher will put you around a grand.. If you don't want to waste even more money learning/ wasting DOM I'd suggest something like Bendtech pro as well.
I'll second Bendtech

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I picked up 1-1/4 130deg die from trick tools for 130 then got a 12 ton jack and made my own bender. A lot of people do something along that line then upgrade it as needed. I also have a Harbor Freight tubing roller which actually surprised me. I've bent a few things and am now working on a roof rack.
I've always figured i'm not doing this as a profession yet so there is no need for super expensive metalworking equipment. If you're inclined enough to be bending tube then i'm assuming you can weld. And if you can weld then you can make your own bender.
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post #9 of 14 Old 01-19-2016, 06:40 PM
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Get a jd2 and don't look back. Get bend tec software and you will be a pro. I have bent all kinds of stuff with it.
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post #10 of 14 Old 01-27-2016, 04:07 PM
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any big name bender will be good. JD2, Pro Tools or Rogue.

I have a Pro Tools with copperhead fab air/hydro conversion. Bender, die, and air/hydro conversion with stand it is about $1300 to buy new. Rogue is best bang for your buck, you can be bending for about $800 all in with one die.

Bend tech is all on you. Not worth it IMO. Not much it can do that i can't with some pretty simple math. If i waste tube, 99% of the time it is my error such as me placing in the the bender in the wrong orientation. Bent many cages and such, very little wasted tube and never used bend tech.

Get a bender, get a good notcher as well. Really happy with my Rogue Versa notcher.




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I've got the JD2 Model 3 and am happy with it.

As someone mentioned, you're looking at 1K to get a bender, 1 die and a tube notcher. I got pretty good at notching with a 4.5" cutoff wheel so I never bought a notcher.


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I have a owned many different benders over the years. Pro-Tools makes a nice bender. I have also owned a much higher end Ercolina rotary draw bender which was awesome. I currently own a JMR MFG bender. I really like the speed of the hydraulic bender versus air over hydraulic. JMR offers a couple die options. If you want a die that will last a long time get the hardened dies from JMR.


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After some research and all the replies I've decided to go with the JD2 with the hydraulic upgrade... I think for what I plan on using it for it will be perfect.

Thanks for all the help!

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I removed the handle of my manual JD2 bender and put on a trailer/camper jack with a few simple brackets welded to it. Removed the crank handle and welded on a large nut to the output shaft of the jack. Then use a wrench or a drill or an impact to turn the jack screw and bend the tube. It works really well, and the jack was about $35 brand new.

I have no clue how much pressure is being put on the jack, and how long it can stand being used like this (I suppose you could drill the tube and add some additional grease zerks!) but the rating on this one that I used is supposed to push 5,000 lbs.

The video here shows a 90 degree bend of typical roll cage sized tube, (I miss-spoke the size in the video) 1.75" .120 HREW, bent with one hand! (camera was in the other hand!) The stand wasn't bolted down, it was just resting flat on the concrete.


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