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Unread 02-22-2009, 02:05 AM   #121
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I know this thread prefers 220v, but has anyone used the Hobart Handler 140? On paper it claims up to 1/4 inch.
I've seen some pretty solid work from a 140 with a skilled person behind the hood.

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Unread 02-23-2009, 08:51 PM   #122
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Sooo.....didn't have time to read the whole thread just did a bit of browsing. This may have already been covered but I'll throw in my .02
S.M.A. : Shielded Metal Arc, otherwise known as stick welding. Uses a solid rod with flux coating. The flux around the metal core is what keeps impurities out of the weld. The first two numbers on the rod are tensile strength, the third is weld position, and the fourth is type of flux.

M.I.G : Metal Inert Gas, otherwise known as wire feed. Uses solid wire and a pressurized inert gas (Usually argon or 75/25) to keep the weld clean and prevent porosity. MIG also has the option of shielded wire so you don't need gas but I WOULD NOT suggest using it.

T.I.G. : Tungsten Inert Gas, otherwise known as Tig, lol. Uses a tungsten rod to carry the arc and pressurized gas for cleaning. Can be used with or without filler rod.

Wire feed is the most practical choice for probably 80% of people and as for my opinion on wirefeed welders.......I own a MillerMatic 180 Auto set. Call me bias but if you can afford it Miller seems to be about the best choice in each class.
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Unread 02-24-2009, 05:49 PM   #123
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i have the attention span of a nat so i couldn't read to much this thread so sorry about repeads
i'm pretty new to tig welding. i have a 2 or 3 hours laying beads... so i'm looking at getting a welder for myself. i've been thinking about between the hobart 140, or the 187.. no i know there one is 220v and 110v now i know 220v is the more capable machine but what really are the pros and cons. the maximum steel thickness of the 140... and whats all should i get looking for.. i would like to be able to weld up some stuff like mild fab work.. i'm thinking alot around 1/4 steel..
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Unread 02-25-2009, 12:29 AM   #124
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after a sleepless night i read a little here and there and i think i will end up buying the 187 if a week or so..
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Unread 02-26-2009, 07:57 PM   #125
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i have the attention span of a nat so i couldn't read to much this thread so sorry about repeads
i'm pretty new to tig welding. i have a 2 or 3 hours laying beads... so i'm looking at getting a welder for myself. i've been thinking about between the hobart 140, or the 187.. no i know there one is 220v and 110v now i know 220v is the more capable machine but what really are the pros and cons. the maximum steel thickness of the 140... and whats all should i get looking for.. i would like to be able to weld up some stuff like mild fab work.. i'm thinking alot around 1/4 steel..
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after a sleepless night i read a little here and there and i think i will end up buying the 187 if a week or so..
http://hobartwelders.com/weldtalk/

If you have 220 in your shop/garage and the $ for the 187, get it. I have no regrets on purchasing mine.
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Unread 03-01-2009, 05:17 PM   #126
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I've been welding for about 20 years. I've welded everything from rusted exhausts, railroad car frames, to heavy demolition crane booms. The only problem I had was I didn't have a welder for at home. September of 2007 I finally bought one for the garage. Just to do things like work on my jeep and build 55 gallon smokers. After going from web site to site and reading, this is the welder I ended up with. It's a little more heavy on the wallet but you really need to check out how the machines are made and what the components are made of (i.e. plastic, cast....). If I need to weld a little more heavier material than what the weld can handle, I just preheat. Very rarely though do I run into that just around the house. It not like I have a D9 sitting out back that needs its teeth or blade built back up...

http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Cat...t.aspx?p=42420

Just thought I'd add my .02 cents worth...
And, don't throw away your scrap; use to practice on. That's how you get to be a good welder. And weld with two hands... lol

Oh yea, you can also purchase a whip to weld aluminum
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Unread 03-06-2009, 06:52 PM   #127
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why pre-heat, sounds like youve done some big welding. i'm a union ironworker, i've got a ton of certs to my name, including 7018 3g and 4g, 232 3g and 4g both unlimited thickness, plug welds, stainless TIG pipe, full pen rebar blah blah blah. just run a strong root pass and some cover passes if you are doing fillets, flare or full pen welds. i guess if you are butt welding you should pre heat :-P
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Unread 03-08-2009, 09:49 AM   #128
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why pre-heat, sounds like youve done some big welding. i'm a union ironworker, i've got a ton of certs to my name, including 7018 3g and 4g, 232 3g and 4g both unlimited thickness, plug welds, stainless TIG pipe, full pen rebar blah blah blah. just run a strong root pass and some cover passes if you are doing fillets, flare or full pen welds. i guess if you are butt welding you should pre heat :-P
I'm looking at this from the point that this person is a beginner. Is he/she going to be able place a nice gap between his pieces and put in a nice rootl? Unless he's got the practice: no. We're talking about a little 110v welder here. Hopefully he/she won't purchase one of them automatic settings welders. I tried one and didn't care for it at all.

It was hard enough for me to purchase my little 110v Lincoln that I have (if it wasn't at least 220v ac/dc, it wasn't capable of doing what I wanted in the garage). For the YJ, this thing is great.
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Unread 03-08-2009, 01:49 PM   #129
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i've used those miller autoset's, i built some handrails in the field with one. had it cranked to the maximum and it worked alright for 1/8" material...wouldn't weld anything thicker with it though
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Unread 03-08-2009, 02:10 PM   #130
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i've used those miller autoset's, i built some handrails in the field with one. had it cranked to the maximum and it worked alright for 1/8" material...wouldn't weld anything thicker with it though

You must be talking about the 140 autoset, but even that unit has gone to 3/16 very well for me.

My 180 with autoset easily does 1/4"-5/16"
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Unread 03-08-2009, 06:34 PM   #131
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yeah it's the 140, i wouldn't use it for more then 3/16 though, i'd feel more cumfy with a larger welder. I love my power mig, it'll rip up 1/2" no problem. it's always good to buy a welder/plasma that's capable of more then you intend to use it for or else you will probably be running it maxed out all the time. i've been through plenty of welders to learn that rule
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Unread 03-09-2009, 06:54 AM   #132
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Hopefully someone finds this..

I'm in the market for a MiG welder. I have no experience and little budget. I'm buying the welder only for sheet metal, to repair the body of my CJ. I'm not to worried about doing anything else right now. Just looking for something cheap to tack in some sheet metal patches.

I would love to be able to make repairs to the body mounts, and spots on the frame, build bumpers, etc, but I think that would require a lot more welder than I'm looking for.
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Unread 03-14-2009, 05:21 PM   #133
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i've used those miller autoset's, i built some handrails in the field with one. had it cranked to the maximum and it worked alright for 1/8" material...wouldn't weld anything thicker with it though
The MillerMatic 140 you used in the field is a 110v welder rated for 3/16" in a single pass. Like yourself I have a few welding certs and have done my fair share of welding in the field. Unless your using a dedicated generator I find power sources in the field unreliable. You plug your welder into a spiderbox, start laying a bead then a framer fires up his chopsaw, the 14 halogen lights plugged into a handful of threeways are glowing nicely, tile guy hits the go switch on his saw, bla bla bla. Pretty soon your welder is having a hard time keeping an arc going let alone get any penetration. I'd bet in a more stable environment that 140 would burn 3/16" no problem.

As for welding at home I have 220v in my shop and love my MillerMatic 180.
http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...c_180_autoset/

If ya don't have 220v, I would be eyeballing the 140. Miller seems to have great products.
http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...c_140_autoset/
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Unread 03-26-2009, 03:23 PM   #134
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I'm interested in learning to weld. I found this on CL, I was wondering if you guys have any opinions of this welder. It looks like its the harbor freight job, but can you tell anything else by the pics??





I'm going to take a class this summer. Would this unit be something that would work for a new guy?

It's $50 by the way.
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Unread 03-26-2009, 03:30 PM   #135
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Here it is on Harbor Freight's website.

For that price, I'd probably buy it new, except that I personally think HF welders are junk so I wouldn't buy it at all. Worst case, though, is that you buy the one off craigslist, hate it, and you're out $50, which wouldn't exactly be the end of the world.
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