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Unread 01-18-2008, 01:17 PM   #76
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Save your money. Clarke is probably the best of the el-cheapo welders if there is such as a thing but if you actually plan on getting in to welding it is a poor investment. You will just end up trading up in a year or two. I have used a clarke 110v mig welder before and it was fine for heavy sheet metal but that is about it. On paper it should have been able to do more but it just didn't produce enough heat.

In North America there are only two real options for the home welder, Lincoln and Miller (Hobart is made by miller).

If money is tight save up a extra $150 and buy a lincoln or miller off ebay. You can get a Lincoln or Miller 180 for around $500 sometimes new. I did.

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Unread 01-25-2008, 07:28 PM   #77
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Ok after reading through this entire post I am still unsure. I see stick this or MIG that but I am still unsure.

I have only welded stick and I have taken a few intro. welding classes with stick. I would like to stay around $500 for a welder.

I am looking at being able to fab my own things like bumpers and skid plates. I am also going to need to be able to do things like repair rust spots on my body and fix exhaust hangers and the like. I really want an all around machine but I want to be able to weld 1/4" for bumpers. What do you guys think??

I have been looking at the Lincoln Pro-Mig 180's and the Lincoln 220v stick welders. Opinions?
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Unread 01-25-2008, 09:08 PM   #78
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Ok after reading through this entire post I am still unsure. I see stick this or MIG that but I am still unsure.

I have only welded stick and I have taken a few intro. welding classes with stick. I would like to stay around $500 for a welder.

I am looking at being able to fab my own things like bumpers and skid plates. I am also going to need to be able to do things like repair rust spots on my body and fix exhaust hangers and the like. I really want an all around machine but I want to be able to weld 1/4" for bumpers. What do you guys think??

I have been looking at the Lincoln Pro-Mig 180's and the Lincoln 220v stick welders. Opinions?

$500.00 and 1/4" don't mix with Mig IMHO. Duck soup with stick.
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Unread 03-01-2008, 06:14 PM   #79
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That Miller 251 reminds me a lot of my Lincoln Power Mig 255 (which isn't really very visible in this picture).

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Unread 07-14-2008, 08:30 PM   #80
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Well if you HAVE to stay at 500.00 then get the largest machine (highest Amps) mig you can and run fluxcore wire. Not as clean as Mig but it's a stronger weld, and with fluxcore your machine will easily run 1/4.

You can shop around a lot but this may be a good deal http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...2924_200342924 Under 500.00! 175 Amps and Northern will stand behind it. this one comes with gauges so you can run gas no issues.

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Ok after reading through this entire post I am still unsure. I see stick this or MIG that but I am still unsure.

I have only welded stick and I have taken a few intro. welding classes with stick. I would like to stay around $500 for a welder.

I am looking at being able to fab my own things like bumpers and skid plates. I am also going to need to be able to do things like repair rust spots on my body and fix exhaust hangers and the like. I really want an all around machine but I want to be able to weld 1/4" for bumpers. What do you guys think??

I have been looking at the Lincoln Pro-Mig 180's and the Lincoln 220v stick welders. Opinions?
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Unread 07-16-2008, 09:56 PM   #81
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Does anyone have any experience or know anything about the hobart rc-256? Would this be a good welder for jeep projects ( body repair/ bumpers etc.) I did a search but can't find any info.
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Unread 07-16-2008, 10:31 PM   #82
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Does anyone have any experience or know anything about the hobart rc-256? Would this be a good welder for jeep projects ( body repair/ bumpers etc.) I did a search but can't find any info.
That is way overkill. From what I can find online, that is also a 3 phase machine.

Where are you finding this machine???? Gonna be expensive as hell to get 3 phase in your garage.

So in short, OVERKILL. It prolly wont go "low" enough to sheet metal anyway.
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Unread 07-17-2008, 05:34 AM   #83
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I have a variable frequency drive that makes three phase power for some of the woodworking tools I have already. I found that welder at a Industrial surplus place for $129.00. I just did not know if it would do the sheet metal work.

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Unread 07-17-2008, 05:37 AM   #84
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The same place has a miller CP-200 for sale as well. Would that one be any better for the body panels?
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Unread 08-04-2008, 07:56 PM   #85
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Just bought the Hobart 187H very impressed on the amount of wire it can put down and purty beads. A whole lot better than the old Campbell Housfield 90 I burned up. Also have the Hobart 235 A/C- D/C Stickmate
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Unread 08-07-2008, 10:20 AM   #86
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That Miller 251 reminds me a lot of my Lincoln Power Mig 255 (which isn't really very visible in this picture).

That Powermig 255 is a killer machine...it's the machine that I primarily used in industry from everything from 20 gauge mild steel to 3/4" plate. For a general home fab setup this is definatly the way I would go. Stay away from the stick welders and the flux core wire...for less experience welders and what you want to do (make Jeep toys!) generally a machine like this ran with .035 solid wire and 75/25 shield gas will do everything you ever want and more. They do run about 2500-2700 new...but they do pop up used on craigslist now and then.

Man what a great machine...I run two of them, plus an old reliable ESAB Mig in the welding classes I teach...
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Im looking to buy my first welder as well. but im in a bit of a predicement, i can only get a 110v and ive only got $500. I was looking at the clarke 110v stick machines which say they can weld up to 1/4 inch but not sure thats true, but i was also leaning towards the hobart handler 140. I need some experienced welders advice as to what i should do. thanks
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Im looking to buy my first welder as well. but im in a bit of a predicement, i can only get a 110v and ive only got $500. I was looking at the clarke 110v stick machines which say they can weld up to 1/4 inch but not sure thats true, but i was also leaning towards the hobart handler 140. I need some experienced welders advice as to what i should do. thanks
Between the 2 I'd go Hobart. You can weld 1/4" on flux core, but from my Lincoln 140 amp experience I would trust the welds like a wet fart.
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what is the main difference in capabilities of the lincoln ac/dc vs the hobart ac/dc besides the 100 dollar price difference. i found out today that 50 amp power is available in my garage.
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what is the main difference in capabilities of the lincoln ac/dc vs the hobart ac/dc besides the 100 dollar price difference. i found out today that 50 amp power is available in my garage.
I have used both. I wore out 2 Lincoln AC DC 225 welders over the years. Both were very dependable. I recently bought the Hobart AC DC 235 stickmate which is basically the same as the Miller Thunderbolt 235/160. It is much more compact and instead of notching through the amps it has an infinite crank adjustment. As far as work goes the Hobart has a better adjustment feature. As far as dependability I can't say much for the Hobart as I have only had it a short period of time. I have run tons of rod through Lincolns with little or no problems at all. I think the Hobart is noisier when running on AC.

What prices are you looking at? Which one is $100.00 more? They used to be about the same price.
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