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Unread 12-02-2010, 10:35 AM   #286
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Also remember in you're budget you'll be needing other fab tools..grinders,cutting tools,bottles for gas for MIG,welding jackets,gloves,facesheilds,welding shield..this is one i would not go cheap on,a good auto welding hood makes a HUGE difference ,especialy for someone just learning.

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Unread 12-02-2010, 10:48 AM   #287
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I've never used a Snap-on machine..but for the money you are willing to spend i would totaly stay with the big names..Lincoln,Miller,ESAB and Hobart..Miller and Lincoln being my first choices.

Any of the sears,Snap-Ons,Eastwood,Northern Tools etc machines i've seen n read reviews on are just a remake of big name machines with less inferior parts in them for a lower price
I'm not willing to spend $2,500. I just got the impression that that is where this was going. I would like to stay around the $1,000 mark. I priced the mm211 with a 40 cf tank at about $1,100. I could handle that but just want to make sure I'm not making a mistake because well it's $1,100 and I'm not a rich man.

So you are saying that the mm211 can weld 0.25" for 10 minutes without stopping? That's more duty cycle than i'll ever need, I think.
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I'm not willing to spend $2,500. I just got the impression that that is where this was going. I would like to stay around the $1,000 mark. I priced the mm211 with a 40 cf tank at about $1,100. I could handle that but just want to make sure I'm not making a mistake because well it's $1,100 and I'm not a rich man.

So you are saying that the mm211 can weld 0.25" for 10 minutes without stopping? That's more duty cycle than i'll ever need, I think.
Most likely YES,,for the fact running .025 (i use .023 for thin sheetmetal) only uses a tiny percent of the machines capabilities..that ups the duty cycle of it.
The advertised duty cycles are measured at the machines limit,meaning using the highest heat setting,anything less creates a higher duty cycle of usage.

If i was in you're shoes(just my opinion ONLY)..i would go with something around the 180 range for having a set budget of 1000.00..even a Miller 180 is around 800.00,that leaves you with 200.00 to spend on other things NEEDED for welding and fabrication..or even a Lincoln 180 or Hobart 187 for around 650.00..that leaves 350.00 for other things too.
Just buying the welder is just a START..there is so MUCH more to buy to get started in welding/fabrication.
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Unread 12-02-2010, 10:57 AM   #289
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Also remember in you're budget you'll be needing other fab tools..grinders,cutting tools,bottles for gas for MIG,welding jackets,gloves,facesheilds,welding shield..this is one i would not go cheap on,a good auto welding hood makes a HUGE difference ,especialy for someone just learning.
I have a stick welder that I have used occasionally so have the personal protection equipment needed already. I also have a grinder. I am planning to buy the gas cylinder with the welder. I'm looking at 40 cf cylinders.
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Unread 12-02-2010, 11:12 AM   #290
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What Part Pa you in Jose?..i'm originaly from Altoona..and will be up there and Newark Delaware and Elkton Md for a long holiday vacation visiting freinds and family in just a few weeks or less untill after the 1st of the year...i will most likely be bringing my Lincoln 180 along for the fact everytime i go up someone wants something fixed/welded when i come up..lol...i could let you use mine for an example of how it runs.
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Unread 12-02-2010, 11:28 AM   #291
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Check on the price of a 125 cf tank they sold me mine for 40$ more than the small tank that way it will last longer without refills you should consider ironworker's offer see if you like the way that machine runs.
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Unread 12-02-2010, 11:56 AM   #292
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Most likely YES,,for the fact running .025 (i use .023 for thin sheetmetal) only uses a tiny percent of the machines capabilities..that ups the duty cycle of it.
The advertised duty cycles are measured at the machines limit,meaning using the highest heat setting,anything less creates a higher duty cycle of usage.

If i was in you're shoes(just my opinion ONLY)..i would go with something around the 180 range for having a set budget of 1000.00..even a Miller 180 is around 800.00,that leaves you with 200.00 to spend on other things NEEDED for welding and fabrication..or even a Lincoln 180 or Hobart 187 for around 650.00..that leaves 350.00 for other things too.
Just buying the welder is just a START..there is so MUCH more to buy to get started in welding/fabrication.
I meant 0.25" steel, not the diameter of the welding wire.

I am originally from Ebensburg area but now live in Harrisburg. Newark is kind of a haul from here but I appreciate the offer.
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Unread 12-02-2010, 09:25 PM   #293
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I timed out my MM175 twice, once welding up a disk frame (welding 1/2" to 3/16") I built to plow my food plots and another time building my 4X8 dump trailer on 1/8" material, I layed 16' of bead before it timed out though
It took me 5 years to decide to buy a bigger machine.
Just to let ya know this welding thing is very addicting, it opens up a whole new way to put things together.
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Unread 12-02-2010, 09:57 PM   #294
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I meant 0.25" steel, not the diameter of the welding wire.

I am originally from Ebensburg area but now live in Harrisburg. Newark is kind of a haul from here but I appreciate the offer.
I'll be in Altoona area too visiting family goin right thru harrisburg up 283 to the turnpike..i used to hang out in Ebensburg alot..played a few bars there when i was "tryin to be a rock star" back in the days when i played in alot of bands..lol

It would be just a hop n a skip from Altoona Via the turnpike,,besides..i like to meet new jeepin buddys when i get a chance..i'll even bring all my auto sheilds for ya try out too and some free goodies for fabrication/safety equip. i get free from work
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Unread 12-03-2010, 12:36 AM   #295
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Iron worker I just noticed your not to terrible far from me Albany Ga.
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Iron worker I just noticed your not to terrible far from me Albany Ga.
We'll have to hook up sometime after the holidays and do some jeepin or mess around with some building/fabrication..
I noticed 'Albany" but there is so many Albany's in different states didn't realize you was in Ga.

I'm just a few hours ,if that from there.
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Unread 12-04-2010, 10:24 AM   #297
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I bought a welder and a bottle. I'll post up later with a review. Thanks everyone for the input.
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Unread 12-04-2010, 01:25 PM   #298
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Well is it a secret what did you end up getting?
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Well is it a secret what did you end up getting?
It's a secret. j/k

I bought the MM211. I went over budget but it is nice. I haven't gotten to use it on 220 yet because my old welder has a different plug than this one. I need to get a new plug for my welder circuit. I'd say it is about 30-40 times easier to use than my stick welder and that makes me happy.

Learned the hard way that MIG wire likes to unspool itself... what a mess.
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THe MM211 is a nice welder. I have the MM180 which is good for what I need it for, but the 211 has a little more "oomph", which is always a good thing!
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