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Unread 03-09-2012, 06:51 AM   #16
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It looks great. Did you design with a CAD program or card board?
No CAD program. Used cardboard. The winch plate and the the pieces that attach directly to it were just figured up with a tape measure and eye (not crazy angles).

It shouldn't be any heavier than the the store bought versions. It's the same thinkness of plate that most advertise.

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Unread 03-13-2012, 02:07 PM   #17
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That's a nice looking bumper.
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Unread 03-13-2012, 10:54 PM   #18
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Very nice

Im planning a similar looking one only instead of the dip down on the top in the middle it will continue across. Im going to sink the winch down between the frame rails and have the bumper fully cover it. Then do the bumper floating using my old body pucks so I can plow deer without worry of frame damage

Any internal bracing/webbing ?
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Unread 03-14-2012, 06:12 PM   #19
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Had a day off and finished it up. I used the Duplicolor spray on bed liner, and it didn't hide the pitting as well as I had hoped. I'm still happy with the way it turned out. Got the new tires on too . Sliders next, get rid of the factory steps.

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Unread 03-14-2012, 06:19 PM   #20
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Very nice

Im planning a similar looking one only instead of the dip down on the top in the middle it will continue across. Im going to sink the winch down between the frame rails and have the bumper fully cover it. Then do the bumper floating using my old body pucks so I can plow deer without worry of frame damage

Any internal bracing/webbing ?
Sinking the winch sounds pretty cool. I didn't do any bracing or webbing. I'm thinking that all the corners will give it enough strength.
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Unread 03-16-2012, 01:16 AM   #21
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Man that bumper looks killer man, you are a master of the cardboard trade
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Unread 03-16-2012, 02:07 PM   #22
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Looks great! Are you still planning the hoop?
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Unread 03-16-2012, 02:50 PM   #23
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that is a grade A professional job....whats next?

doh...just read the sliders are next. sweet!
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Unread 03-16-2012, 07:54 PM   #24
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Looks great! Are you still planning the hoop?
Maybe as a bolt in. Be moving on to another project first. I found out that a friend of a friend has a tubing bender and will work for beer. So when the time comes...
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Unread 03-16-2012, 09:34 PM   #25
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I'm guessing the bumper bolts onto the frame with the stock locations of 2 on top and one on the bottom?

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Unread 03-18-2012, 08:06 AM   #26
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That bumper is very sharp. I love the look of how you tapered the top of the ends rather than just going straight up.

That being said I have some structural concerns of the design. In a perfect world we could always have an anchor directly in front of us when we get stuck. In the real world this is almost never the case. Your fairlead being bolted to just a flat verticle plate may fail in a side pull. There is a lot of leverage on those rollers and having all that extra plate cut out of it will weaken it even further. I would do a hard side pull in a controlled situation and try to make it fail before putting it in a real world situation and having it fail when you really need it.

My second concern is the lack of stiffener brace behind the winch itself. In a hard pull that plate will bow under the stress and something could fail. Failures like this most always happen when someone is standing there watching, and when things fly under that kind of stress someone can lose their life. I would do a hard straight pull and try to make it fail again. Pay close attention to the back side of the winch plate. If it is bowing it will eventually cause trouble.

I'm not trying to ***** in your Cherios here. I love the look but safety have to come before anything else when out in the middle of nowhere. My entire bumper is made of 1/4 plate. All parts were bent so I didnt need to worry about a weld failing. I have a 1" tall stiffener behind the winch. I had to do a hard pull on mine last weekend. On Monday as I was washing all the trail crud off I noticed that the paint around the 4 top bumper bolts had all popped off. This tells me that I was bending mine under the stress. I thought that I would never have to worry about anything giving with my design and I was was even wrong.

Be safe out there.
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Unread 03-18-2012, 10:31 AM   #27
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NIce overall look. How are the d-rings held on? Most designs I have seen that are a longer solid piece that pops through the front plate and tie into the mounts / frame rails.
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Unread 03-18-2012, 02:33 PM   #28
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NIce overall look. How are the d-rings held on? Most designs I have seen that are a longer solid piece that pops through the front plate and tie into the mounts / frame rails.
I take it you have never seen a Poison Spyder bumper then. They just butt them up to the front. Not the way I would do it but they claim the way they did it that it is plenty strong.
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Unread 03-18-2012, 07:57 PM   #30
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That bumper is very sharp. I love the look of how you tapered the top of the ends rather than just going straight up.

That being said I have some structural concerns of the design. In a perfect world we could always have an anchor directly in front of us when we get stuck. In the real world this is almost never the case. Your fairlead being bolted to just a flat verticle plate may fail in a side pull. There is a lot of leverage on those rollers and having all that extra plate cut out of it will weaken it even further. I would do a hard side pull in a controlled situation and try to make it fail before putting it in a real world situation and having it fail when you really need it.

My second concern is the lack of stiffener brace behind the winch itself. In a hard pull that plate will bow under the stress and something could fail. Failures like this most always happen when someone is standing there watching, and when things fly under that kind of stress someone can lose their life. I would do a hard straight pull and try to make it fail again. Pay close attention to the back side of the winch plate. If it is bowing it will eventually cause trouble.

I'm not trying to ***** in your Cherios here. I love the look but safety have to come before anything else when out in the middle of nowhere. My entire bumper is made of 1/4 plate. All parts were bent so I didnt need to worry about a weld failing. I have a 1" tall stiffener behind the winch. I had to do a hard pull on mine last weekend. On Monday as I was washing all the trail crud off I noticed that the paint around the 4 top bumper bolts had all popped off. This tells me that I was bending mine under the stress. I thought that I would never have to worry about anything giving with my design and I was was even wrong.

Be safe out there.
I appreciate any advice. I looked at the store bought version in deciding how I would build this and had wondered about the winch plate. I may run bracing underneath letting the winch bolts go through it and spread the force across the plate. I will also try some side loading at home to see what happens. Thanks for the advice. I've never done any winching before(we couldn't afford them when I was younger).

The eyes are welded straight to the plate , once again, from looking at what was on the market. They would have to rip the plate out to come off.
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