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Unread 05-27-2014, 08:38 PM   #31
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I bought a face shield today and it put my mind at ease now just with a little bit more safety equipment I can feel more comfortable using my grinding wheel angle grinder and chop saw. The only safety problem I still have is I cough up rust colored flem every day and it's bloody to and I know it's from grinding dust. Is that just a ventilation issue or what. Cause I sometimes use a respirator but it's uncomfortable when I use my welding helmet or face shield.
I never got to the point of coughing up brown stuff but after a few minutes of grinding without at least a dust mask I start to taste the metal, and the respirator or dust mask gets put on. Have you ever seen a dust mask after an hour of grinding? Pretty sure if you did youd wear one

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Unread 05-27-2014, 11:24 PM   #32
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I bought a face shield today and it put my mind at ease now just with a little bit more safety equipment I can feel more comfortable using my grinding wheel angle grinder and chop saw. The only safety problem I still have is I cough up rust colored flem every day and it's bloody to and I know it's from grinding dust. Is that just a ventilation issue or what. Cause I sometimes use a respirator but it's uncomfortable when I use my welding helmet or face shield.
Is the phlegm rust colored because you're grinding the rust off of the steel? Or, does this happen even if you're grinding clean steel, too?

If you have blood in your phlegm, you might want to get that checked out.

Are you a smoker?

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Unread 05-28-2014, 05:26 AM   #33
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I don't smoke but live with smokers and I buy my metal from a salvage yard so it is a little rusty. And I thin the only reason I spit up some blod with it is because of how it irritates my throat and makes me cough a lot or sneeze a lot.
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Unread 05-28-2014, 07:51 AM   #34
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It sounds like you are overly sensitive to the metal / rust dusts. The reason I say that is because I've been building industrial metal fabrications for 40 years. I don't always wear the appropriate safety equipment (and that's not a good thing...). But...at worst, I've only had soot, when blowing my nose. I get a chest xray every 5 years, and so far,so good.

A good respirator w/ replaceable canister, or a 10-pack of these...http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3...K8BC31gv)&rt=d

If I coughed up blood, I would get that checked out. Something inside of you bleeds when irritated...

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Unread 05-28-2014, 09:12 AM   #35
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Yea, black snot is pretty normal after a day in a welding shop. The stuff shouldn't be in there long enough to rust. I use a mask if I'm grinding rust off the steel. I had to go to the ER once from inhaling too much, BUT the rust was from chemical related corrosion in the back of a carpet cleaning van i was attempting to patch so that probably helped my lungs close up.
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Unread 05-28-2014, 05:02 PM   #36
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The way I'm a bit biased towards to prevent it all, get an israeli gas mask and some 3M p100 mask filter canisters. Add a face shield and ANYTHING chemical/dust/mechanical/aerosole/etc related will no longer mess with your sinuses, face, or your eyes. It's really tight for welding masks but there's some half face masks and low profile cartridges you can get when forced air feed isn't possible. Not to try to sound rude or anything but you really just gotta suck it up and deal with it. Safety usually isn't very comfortable. And I'd rather have some heat rash or rope burns or something like that than deal with chemical burns in my lungs, permanent vision/hearing loss, or worse. I was actually just saying today when my slim safety goggles couldn't be found, I"m gonna get like 20 pairs of various safety goggles/glasses and a couple of those 200 count foam earplug dispensers. Look at Uline.com and 3M for some of that stuff if ya like, it's about the best sources I can find. Safety is worth any amount of money you have available for it, never let anyone convince you otherwise!
Prime examples, even with a paper face mask, one of the premium ones, a dude that painted our old truck still had major black paint all over his face, in his nose, and more from where it went completely through the mask. Another being a guy doing some flooring work, contact cement stuff flash ignited from a water heater two rooms away, if he didn't have on a full coverage face mask, he'd have had severe burns to his lungs and maybe even eye damage from it.
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Unread 05-29-2014, 10:32 AM   #37
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Had a metal sliver in right eye started to rust and cause a pocket....used a extremely strong magnet and sucked it out last week....wife's a nurse and said it wouldn't work or be gross...neither...lol good old redneck medical.
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Unread 06-03-2014, 12:08 AM   #38
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I bought a face shield today and it put my mind at ease now just with a little bit more safety equipment I can feel more comfortable using my grinding wheel angle grinder and chop saw. The only safety problem I still have is I cough up rust colored flem every day and it's bloody to and I know it's from grinding dust. Is that just a ventilation issue or what. Cause I sometimes use a respirator but it's uncomfortable when I use my welding helmet or face shield.
respirator when grinding, and a cool band when welding, if you have a miller hood.
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Unread 07-01-2014, 11:13 AM   #39
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Wow, some of these accidents are pretty nasty. Hey RIXCJ, thanks for taking the time to document your finger injury. I always assumed gloves were the safeguard in this sort of situation but now I will rethink it a bit. Glad to see your finger back and healthy now.

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Unread 10-30-2014, 04:56 PM   #40
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This happened back at the end of January when I was cutting off perches from an 8.8. I had it on my smallest crappy jack stands. I grabbed the pinion flange and diff cover to rotate it to get to the last perch to cut off. I didn't notice as I was rotating the axle it was walking off the jack stands. It rolled off and I didn't have time to move my hand. My finger ended up between the flange and the concrete. Here is the aftermath.

This is the picture of where it landed on the floor. The clean spot is where my hand was. You can see the divot in the concrete from where it landed. I think I got lucky because if it hit my finger square it would have probably took it clean off



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Lastly the actual pic at the ER. I never in my life had ever had the feeling I was going to pass out. When this happened I put a towel over it and pinched it off. Then all of the sudden I got warm and tunnel vision. I was close. Honestly I think the cold rain walking over to my neighbors house was the only thing that kept me conscious. Ended up needing 7 stitches and two pins. I still don't have full range on my last knuckle and every morning I wake up it is stiff and sore. Remember kids SAFTEY FIRST.

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Unread 10-30-2014, 11:00 PM   #41
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Aaand... Unsubscribed... That was awful!
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Unread 10-30-2014, 11:32 PM   #42
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Wow...that's nasty! Thanks for sharing.

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Unread 11-03-2014, 10:12 PM   #43
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Ear plugs or a welding cap that covers an ear can save you a lot of pain when welding too. A couple months ago a guy I was brother in lawing a weld with took two sparks in his ear, and ended up rupturing it.
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Unread 11-03-2014, 11:23 PM   #44
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Many years ago, I was under a vehicle mig welding. I didn't have ear plugs in, which is very rare for me. A red hot spatter ball shot in into my ear and landed what appeared to bounce right on and off of my ear drum, unobstructed. I heard it go "bong" off the eardrum membrane.

Seconds later the pain was excruciating. Fortunately, there was no hearing loss that I'm aware of, anyway.

So, Steve, I can appreciate your BIL's dilemma...

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Unread 11-13-2014, 05:39 PM   #45
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Looks like I will never use my dewalt cut off wheel without using a face shield. And will not wear gloves while working with some power tools. Glad I found the thread.
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