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post #1 of 20 Old 10-08-2013, 09:44 AM Thread Starter
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Recommendations on low cost welding setup

As I get more and more into rebuilding my YJ it has become apparent that I need a welding setup. I have just about all the other tools I need but this one.

So I would be going into this with absolutely no welding gear and I want to have a good enough basic setup that I can do the basic weld jobs required on any project YJ. I also don't want to spend an arm and a leg on this. If it's too costly I will just keep taking stuff to the local welder (Side note: he works pretty cheap, but he is incredibly slow).

My local stores include:

Tractor Supply
Harbour Freight
Lowes
Home Depot
I'm not opposed to ordering online either

Any suggestions?

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post #2 of 20 Old 10-08-2013, 09:48 AM
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i like my hobart from Farm and fleet with gas. it welds great and isn't terribly expensive

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post #3 of 20 Old 10-08-2013, 09:51 AM
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if you looking to get into it for cheap, try looking on cragislist. Last year i bought a miller 180 with a cart, wire, gloves, regulator, and extension cord for $500. this set up would have been well over $1000 new. i would not recommend a harbor freight welding machine. My opion would be buy a good used machine (linclon, hobart, or miller) than a new chinese made machine.
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post #4 of 20 Old 10-08-2013, 09:53 AM
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whatever you get, stick with a name brand (Lincoln, Hobart, Miller, Esab, etc) and get a 220v unit.

stick or mig in part depends on what you want to weld, and also your budget.

a 220v AC stick welder will run somewhere in the 3-400 range, but it's ready to go out of the box, just add a good helmet and rods and you're set to burn. biggest problem (for ME anyway) is that with stick, you can't really weld anything thinner than 14-16 ga. it IS possible, but tough to get it right.

a full mig unit will run you more... the base unit will be somewhere in the 6-800 range, but all you can do with that is flux core wire... to go full mig you'll also need to add at least a tank (no idea what they cost) and possibly the hose/regulator set... that depends on the welder you get. I've seen some that come with it and some don't.

I prefer stick for most things myself. if you can, try out a couple different kinds and see how your learning curve is for each.

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post #5 of 20 Old 10-08-2013, 10:01 AM
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I was in the same position a week ago. Almost bought a HF 90 amp welder plus helmet on sale for 140 but thankfully a friend talked me out of it. Sunday I picked up a Lincoln weldpak with a 10lb spool and helmet off craigslist for the same price!

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post #6 of 20 Old 10-08-2013, 10:52 AM
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Cyberweld has some good online prices, but I picked up a NIB Hobart 190 for $600 from CL. Bargains can be found if you can wait. SearchTempest is a good CL search tool. I almost bought an Eastwood, but I was a little nervous. Looking for a TIG machine, but that will be a few months.
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My Hobart 135 wire welder. With C-25 gas.
Total investment including the gas is easily under $500.
And it will run on 120v household current.
It will weld most things metal on a yj.
There are some things it won't weld, like cast iron or 3/8 inch armor plate or aluminum or stainless steel. Stuff like that.

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post #8 of 20 Old 10-08-2013, 09:51 PM
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Four or five years ago I found my brand new Lincoln 140 at a local pawnshop for $250 out the door. I passed the first wire through it. I've done tons with it and always had good results. Now that I've gotten to the point of doing some bigger projects, I'm selling the 140 and getting a Miller 211 this winter. After using a buddy's 220 machine on some tube work, I liked having the extra heat and not having to always be conscientious about the limits of the smaller machine.

Cliff's notes: watch local pawn shops, CL, etc. for killer deals & 110 machine is fine for most Jeep stuff, but you have to be smart about their limitations.
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post #9 of 20 Old 10-10-2013, 08:47 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the suggestions guys. I like the idea of runnign on 120v. As my power box at home doesn't have any open slots to add another 220V line.

I think I will start watching craigslist and the pawnshop for a quality american brand like that Hobart 120V.
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post #10 of 20 Old 10-10-2013, 09:34 AM
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Thanks for the suggestions guys. I like the idea of runnign on 120v. As my power box at home doesn't have any open slots to add another 220V line.

I think I will start watching craigslist and the pawnshop for a quality american brand like that Hobart 120V.
There is a Hobart 140 for sale in the classifieds here on JF right now from a seller in OH (I realize it is a big state).

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post #11 of 20 Old 10-10-2013, 01:06 PM
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I like the idea of runnign on 120v. As my power box at home doesn't have any open slots to add another 220V line.
The cool thing about the 211 is you can do both.

I fully understand what you are saying though and a quality 120 machine will work out great for what most people get into working on a Jeep. Good luck in your search!
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post #12 of 20 Old 10-10-2013, 06:05 PM
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What about this unit;


http://ashtabula.craigslist.org/for/4120375374.html

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post #13 of 20 Old 10-12-2013, 04:03 PM
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I had to weld using 120V on a 211 and it sucked big time. Had to spend the next day welding on mine with 240 to purge my soul.

This is a good deal:
http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/stor...pool-gun-ready

I used my dryer plug for a long time. I currently use the same circuit just dedicated outlet.

I really think 240V is the way to go. Just not enough juice from 120V @ 20A.
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I hardly touch any sheet metal type work, so hopefully I will never need to run 120v out of that 211.
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post #15 of 20 Old 10-13-2013, 11:13 AM
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I hardly touch any sheet metal type work, so hopefully I will never need to run 120v out of that 211.
It does sheet metal fine on 240V. I have welded the Jeeps body with it.
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