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Unread 06-08-2009, 11:18 PM   #1
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Quick Tire carrier spindle install question

I am hoping to finish the building of my bumper/swingout tire carrier tomorrow. Heres the issue. The bumper is a wraparound type with 2 45 degree joints on each end. I made the mistake and already completly welded those up. I also made the mistake and I haven't drilled the spindle hole yet, should have done that in the beginning. If I were to just drill and hole the the top of the bumper and slip the axle spindle in from the top and just weld the top part of the spindle on the exterior of the spindle. WOuld that be enough or should I take the time to grind down and cut through my welds so I can run a small bead along the bottom? I would rather not cut a hole in the top and the bottom like bersk did due to the difficulty of lining up those 2 holes and stuff.

So would a bead on the top be sufficient or should

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Unread 06-08-2009, 11:46 PM   #2
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FWIW, I punched a hole in my bumper with an oxy-acet torch and welded the shaft on BOTH sides.
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Unread 06-09-2009, 10:49 AM   #3
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well I don't have a torch. Closest I have is a propane torck and I don't think that will ripp through 3/16 steel.
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Unread 06-09-2009, 10:55 AM   #4
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It won't last long welded only on the topside, take the time and do it right, drill through both top and bottom otherwise you'll be wishing you had later.
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Unread 06-09-2009, 10:58 AM   #5
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I made a tire carrier for a Bronco running a 31 inch tire by only welding the top. Personally, I wouldn't do it again, but it worked. Probably depends on the tire size.

What I'd suggest is drilling the two holes. You could make the bottom hole slightly larger allowing you to align the spindle. Then take a piece of flat stock and drill a hole through that the size of the spindle. Slip it over the bottom, align the spindle, tack the spindle to the plate, tack the plate to bottom of bumper. Once it looks good, you can weld it all up and grind the edges smooth. It'll just be a small piece welded to the bottom of the bumper that you'll probably not be able to see.
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Unread 06-12-2009, 01:13 AM   #6
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FWIW

My initial tire carrier build had the spindle just welded on the top, and with a 31" it lasted about 2 months.
My second build has the spindle welded top, bottom, inside, out, 1/4" inner gussets, and its been that way
for about 3 years with no issues. I suggest reinforcing.
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Unread 06-12-2009, 04:44 PM   #7
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On the one spindle type swing I made I did not weld the spindle in at all. I used 2" X 4" rect tube and using a hole saw I drilled holes in the bumper. I then cut a piece of some 1 3/4" OD by 1 1/4" ID DOM tubing to fit in the bumper. I welded the DOM into the bumper. The spindle fits into the dom and is held in by 2 3/8" set screws. I'd think you could do something similar.
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Well I got the bumper painted up earlier today and it will go on tomorrow once the paint cures. What I did was kinda a comprimise. I drilled a hole in the bottom that was about 2/3 the size of the spindle. Then I dropped the spindle in and welded it up. This way the spindle wasn't actually going all the way through the bumper and I didn't have any alignment issues with the spindle but I still got a good bit of the bottom welded up, I think it will work fine.
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