Oxy/acetalene welding pros and cons - JeepForum.com
Search  
Sign Up   Today's Posts
User: Pass: Remember?
Advertise Here
Jeep Home Jeep Forum Jeep Classifieds Jeep Registry JeepSpace Jeep Reviews Jeep Gallery Jeep Clubs Jeep Groups Jeep Videos Jeep Events Jeep Articles
Go Back JeepForum.com > General Technical Discussions > Fabrication Shop > Oxy/acetalene welding pros and cons

JKS Now Available at www.baseline4x4.com, Trackbars, SkidsFS: 2007-2013 Jeep Wrangler "HALO" Angel Eye KitFS: Wranger BRIGHT License Plate LED! Just $3! Great value

Reply
Unread 01-11-2008, 04:57 PM   #1
dickensheets
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Loveland, CO.
Posts: 467
Oxy/acetalene welding pros and cons

Sorry for the new thread but this is a different question sort of...

I have a buddy who owns a chain of welding supply stores. He is willing to make me a great deal on a welder of my choice.

I'm leaning toward a Victor gas outfit. I can weld/cut/bend instead of just weld.

My real question is this: how practical is it for me to think I could make a safari rack or bumper with just this equipment. I know it's a slow way to weld but what am I missing to steer me to a 220v mig.

Thanks, Ryan

__________________
99 WJ V8, 245/75/16 MT/R and Rusty's 2.5" coils and shocks, IRO trac bar, homespun end links, block heater!! 220V MIG w/75-25 and OXY/Acetalene rig if you need it! Just let me know
dickensheets is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-14-2008, 09:42 PM   #2
Psyker
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 373
O/A welding is a pain in the *** and most guys don't bother.

Don't get me wrong, my setup is one of the most used tools in the garage, but not for welding. If you are tying to save some money buy the O/A setup and a AC/DC stick welder. You can do anything with that combo. It will take more work, and not have as clean welds as Mig, but you will be able to build bumpers and stuff.
__________________
Call Sign: KF4ZHT

'96 Green XJ SE - I6, AX15, NP231, 2.5" Lift

'90 White YJ - 4 squirrels spinning a toothpick (i4 w/ax5) - WIP
Psyker is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-14-2008, 09:56 PM   #3
Bigbob
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bakersfield
Posts: 3,589
Oxy Act brazing is great for light stuff. But it develops a lot of heat and warping is a problem. It also does not penetrate at all. Most stuff you will do on a Jeep needs to be welded, not brazed.
__________________
2006 Solar Yellow Rubicon Unlimited
Jeep Club Member #1340
6 Speed, Hardtop
Mods done: Hurst tee handle, cheap hand throttle, Rokmen Merc front bumper, Warn 9.5 TI winch with 3/8" X 100 worth of Viking yellow rope, DPG OME Ultimate with JKS ACOS up front, Kilby Gas Tank Skid, Kilby Steering Box Skid, Jeep Medic Belly Up, Skidrow Engine Skid, Rockcrusher Diff Skid in the rear, Warn Diff cover in front, , AR Outlaw II's and MTR 12:50/15's, Homemade rear Bumper, Cheap Cobra CB, Puma OBA, Sirius Radio, Locker Defeat, Rockhard cage, Rockmen short corners, homemade tire swing/tailgate hinge affair, Airlift air bags on the rear- - - - - - and more to come!
Bigbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-14-2008, 10:45 PM   #4
Waldn
Registered User
1997 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Wpg, MB CA
Posts: 135
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigbob
Oxy Act brazing is great for light stuff. But it develops a lot of heat and warping is a problem. It also does not penetrate at all. Most stuff you will do on a Jeep needs to be welded, not brazed.
Oxy actelene welding can produce very nice strong welds although it is a slow process, but should not be confused with brazing which is done with a brass or bronze filler rod much akin to soldering.
__________________
97 TJ SE 2.5L Auto, 3" BDS, 255/85-16 BFG MT KM
04 KJ LTD Frankenlifted, Full Mopar Armor, front reciever hitch for winch, Rubicon Moabs and MTRs
Waldn is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-15-2008, 07:53 AM   #5
mean90yj
Yota Recovery Specialist
 
mean90yj's Avatar
1990 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 2,330
If he is going to cut you a deal i'd say go for a good 220v miller MIG welder or if you are good enough get a TIG welder. my buddy worked for the navy for 10 years and is a master TIG welder and is teaching me the trade, its very strong and exact, MIG welder is good but it is defanitly thicker and doesn't penetrate as deep as TIG welding does. IMO, go TIG.
__________________
'90 I6 258 w/ Weber 32-36 Carb.
32" BF M/T's with cragar rims
5" BDS springs, MORE greasable shackles, XJ driveshaft, AA SYE kit, RE SS brake lines. Bilstein 5150's, 255/70 valving all around, 14" travel in front, 10" in rear.
~Enjoy>>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=nQCIXoBqpc0
JF MOTO>>>>"Ban a tard...save a life" <<<contributed by leftlanetruckin
OMNIPOTENCE...gotta get me some of that
mean90yj is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-17-2008, 09:19 AM   #6
dickensheets
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Loveland, CO.
Posts: 467
Quote:
Originally Posted by mean90yj
If he is going to cut you a deal i'd say go for a good 220v miller MIG welder or if you are good enough get a TIG welder. my buddy worked for the navy for 10 years and is a master TIG welder and is teaching me the trade, its very strong and exact, MIG welder is good but it is defanitly thicker and doesn't penetrate as deep as TIG welding does. IMO, go TIG.

I'm ready to spring for the Lincoln Power Mig 180 all things considered now. Are any of these MIG machines convertable to TIG?

Thanks guys
__________________
99 WJ V8, 245/75/16 MT/R and Rusty's 2.5" coils and shocks, IRO trac bar, homespun end links, block heater!! 220V MIG w/75-25 and OXY/Acetalene rig if you need it! Just let me know
dickensheets is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-17-2008, 06:42 PM   #7
Matt Gertsch
www.lp.org
 
Matt Gertsch's Avatar
1999 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Nor Cal
Posts: 8,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by dickensheets
I'm ready to spring for the Lincoln Power Mig 180 all things considered now. Are any of these MIG machines convertable to TIG?

Thanks guys
Only if you're buying a high dollar multi-process machine.
__________________
Derpy Hooves for President in 2012
Matt Gertsch is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-29-2008, 09:04 PM   #8
hansw3
Registered User
1978 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 121
2 comments:
1. I successfully brazed together a front clip mount for my fiber glass front end out of 1" square .090 wall steel tubing. I agree though that a mig or tig would be better for welding.

2. My buddie has a good quality miller tig and said he is lucky to get 1"/minute feed rate when using it. To compound the problem, if you buy a cheap import the duty cycles can be only 10% which means you'll be welding slow and stopping and waiting for it to cool down before you start again. Mig is easiest(IMO) and fastest (fact). A name brand 220V single phase Mig would be great.
hansw3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Suggested Threads





Jeep, Wrangler, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, and other models are copyrighted and trademarked to Jeep/Chrysler Corporation. JeepForum.com is not in any way associated with Jeep or the Chrysler Corp.