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Unread 04-11-2013, 10:45 PM   #1
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Ordered a new tig welder today

I've been wanting a tig welder for a long time... Wanted something to do chomolly/ stainless/ and aluminum. Also love the aesthetics of a good clean tig weld. I've been reading up on the machines for a couple years and been scanning craig's list and ebay for the past year. Seen a few syncrowaves, but nothing that stood out for the price they were asking. I also wanted a machine that could run on 110V at the house. I narrowed it down between a Miller Dynasty and an HTP Invertig 221. I have friend that runs a couple of Dynasty's, but I don't weld for a living so it's hard for me to shell out $5K for a dynasty 200. I have yet to find anyone say anything negative about HTP or their Invertig 221. Hopefully, I won't be the first.

So, I finally broke down and bought an HTP Invertig 221. I'm stoked about learning how to tig. It should arrived towards the end of next week and I expect it to take a couple weeks before I start being able to lay down a half *** bead. I've got a lot to learn! I'll keep you guys updated...

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Unread 04-13-2013, 09:50 PM   #2
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I got an invertig last Christmas. It's been a lot of fun. TIG welding is so controlled--it's hard to imagine going back. Unfortunately, I hardly have any free time. There are a lot of projects that I'd love to build but I'm making progress on none of them right now.
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Unread 04-14-2013, 10:11 AM   #3
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Yeah, I could kick myself in the but for missing that sale they had during Christmas...
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I love HTP. When I spring for a TIG, I'll buy theirs. I run their MIG200 with a flex neck gun and love it.
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Unread 04-18-2013, 10:47 AM   #5
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The Invertig came in yesterday. They shipped it out quick and it was packaged well. Very nice looking machine. Feels solid if you know what I mean... Since I've been wanting a tig for 5 years or so, I went ahead and sprung for the dual voltage and water cooled version. Unfortunately, I have no tig experience other that watching some friends at a speed shop weld with a miller 200DX, so I won't be able to do any machine comparisons.

I'm going to start on some 11-16g mild steel scraps to learn.
The machine is actually simpler to configure than I expected. But tig'n is kind of like playing an instrument. It takes a bit to get the coordination down. Right hand torch/ left hand rod/ right foot on pedal/ plus listening to and watching the puddle. When I first started, I was thinking "wow, this is going to be tough". But I'm starting to get a rhythm going. I definitely got a respect for those that do if for a living. Its one thing to be able to weld in perfect conditions another do be able to do it in crazy positions.

Once I get the hang of mild steel, I'll start playing with some aluminum.
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TIG consumables

weldingsupply.com is your friend. Affordable consumables in large quantities.

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Unread 04-19-2013, 08:06 AM   #7
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Quick shot of my temporary location. I can't stand everything being strolled out... I'm going to have to make a tig cart. It'll be good practice. I'd make it out of aluminum if it weren't so freak'n high.
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In all honesty, aluminum isn't that speedy. It's pretty easy to find for $2.50 - $3.00 a pound and sometimes down to $1.75. Steel is about $0.60 - $1.00 but is 3 times the weight. If you do the math on it they're not too different. I sell metal for a living and we have tons of examples where aluminum is actually cheaper. So don't fear the price, cuz steel isn't much if at all cheaper
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In all honesty, aluminum isn't that speedy. It's pretty easy to find for $2.50 - $3.00 a pound and sometimes down to $1.75. Steel is about $0.60 - $1.00 but is 3 times the weight. If you do the math on it they're not too different. I sell metal for a living and we have tons of examples where aluminum is actually cheaper. So don't fear the price, cuz steel isn't much if at all cheaper
Grade and shape can make a huge difference in price. Out of curiosity, what would you sell a piece of 8"x8"x12" 6061 aluminum for?
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In all honesty, aluminum isn't that speedy. It's pretty easy to find for $2.50 - $3.00 a pound and sometimes down to $1.75. Steel is about $0.60 - $1.00 but is 3 times the weight. If you do the math on it they're not too different. I sell metal for a living and we have tons of examples where aluminum is actually cheaper. So don't fear the price, cuz steel isn't much if at all cheaper
That might be scrap piles somewhere..but there is a HUGE difference in the price between a sheet of,lets say 4'x8'x1/8" aluminum and common steel.....
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Sweet deal! Thats a nice looking set up. I would recommend checking out weldingtipsandtricks on youtube. Plenty of great information from Jody using many different types and brands of equipment. He will give you drills to work on etc. For aluminum, since your machine has the ability, set your balance between 68 and 75 depending on the oxidation on the surface since aluminum melts at a lower temperature than the oxidation. The frequency will vary depending on the thickness im usually around 90 to 100hz with the Dynasty 200. but you will find your sweet spot. Also practice feeding filler with both hands as well as controlling the torch with both hands. Also switching from left to right foot and sitting and standing. couple weeks you'll be a pro!
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Unread 05-02-2013, 07:46 AM   #12
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Yeah, I've watched Jody in the past. Pretty good info...
Started on a welding cart to hold my cooler and welder. I could probably throw on some wheels and call it good, but what fun would that be?
I'll add some tig rod holder and a slide out drawer or two for my consumables. And since I enjoy tinkering, I may see if I can give it a "Jeep" theme.
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Unread 05-23-2013, 07:36 PM   #13
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Started playing some with 14 gauge aluminum sheet metal... Wow what a different animal. Ha, It took about ten 3' rods before I could start laying a bead that I was happy with. That's just beads, no joints. But, it's crazy how much better my hand eye coordination is now. Still got tons to learn, but it's a lot of fun.

On steel, one thing that's killing me is welding vertically on the inside corner . I just can't see my puddle. I'm comfortable with the outside corners, but I'm going to do some more researching on the inside corners...
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