OFFICIAL ** Steering Fabrication Thread ** - JeepForum.com
Search  
Sign Up   Today's Posts
User: Pass: Remember?
Advertise Here
Jeep Home Jeep Forum Jeep Classifieds Jeep Registry JeepSpace Jeep Reviews Jeep Gallery Jeep Clubs Jeep Groups Jeep Videos Jeep Events Jeep Articles
Go Back JeepForum.com > General Technical Discussions > Fabrication Shop > OFFICIAL ** Steering Fabrication Thread **

JK Front Lower Adjustable Control Arms!QTP Low Profile Cutouts Now @ MarylandSpeed- Free ShippingOPTIC ARMOR WINDOWS all sale now !!!!!!!!

Reply
Unread 01-15-2004, 07:35 AM   #1
FunkSkunk
Sold my soul to JeepForum
 
FunkSkunk's Avatar
1992 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Marble, NC
Posts: 1,814
OFFICIAL ** Steering Fabrication Thread **

just thought i would start one central steering fab area so we can combine all our efforts to learn how to make strong safe reliable steering for our many jeeps. Sounds good? well here is a pic and a link to a great company that has lots of info, diagrams, pictures on correct and incorrect steering angles and other things....

Please post ideas, measurements, specs whatever so we all can do this right the first time!

http://bulletproofsteering.com

img73-1-.gif  
__________________
Don't Click Me!
FunkSkunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-15-2004, 09:58 AM   #2
dzp
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 632
Great idea. I am about to re-design the steering on my Toyota.
__________________
[email]zack@dzpdrafting.com[/email]
Tyler, Texas
97 TJ, Red, 33" MTR's, Locked F/R, D30/Ford8.8, JKS Disco's, DT3000's, tinted Sailcloth top, 8k Ramsey, Custom bumpers/armor, Ramps 890 on 25degree ramp.
[URL=http://www.dzpdrafting.com]DZP Drafting & Fabrication[/URL]
[URL=http://www.jeepet.com]Jeeps of East Texas Club[/URL]
[URL=http://www.tkff.com]Tyler Kung Fu & Fitness[/URL]
dzp is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-15-2004, 10:45 AM   #3
MudMonster
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ft. Mitchell, KY
Posts: 610
ignoring cost, the M.O.R.E. tie rod and drag links look like a real simple way to do it, with the streight hole and all.

www.mountainoffroad.com
__________________
"Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed"

[COLOR=red][B][SIZE=3]RED JEEP CLUB MEMBER #78[/SIZE] [/B] [/COLOR]
[B][COLOR=red]BIG GUNS[/COLOR] [COLOR=white]AND[/COLOR] [COLOR=blue]JEEP[/COLOR] OWNERS OF AMERICA CLUB MEMBER #3[/B]
[B][COLOR=Red]Red[/COLOR][COLOR=Blue] Neck [/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]Jeep[/COLOR][COLOR=Blue] Club[/COLOR][COLOR=White]Member#27[/COLOR][/B]Fire Engine Red '85 CJ-7, Howell FI-258, T-176, D300, 9", Warn Internal Hubs, Wagoneer front springs, RE Wrangler's in the rear, 33" TrXus', HEI conversion, Taurus fan, no emissions junk, and some 150w daylighters
MudMonster is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-15-2004, 07:10 PM   #4
FunkSkunk
Sold my soul to JeepForum
 
FunkSkunk's Avatar
1992 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Marble, NC
Posts: 1,814
I'm actually get a cardboard template of the more kit sent to me. I'll try to copy it into the computer and post it on here. We'll see how that goes.....

yota stuff.... have you checked AllProOffroad yet?


Good thread from pirate to learn from.... http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...hreadid=209811

Good one on fixing CJ steering issues --> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...=jeep+steering
__________________
Don't Click Me!
FunkSkunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-15-2004, 07:11 PM   #5
FunkSkunk
Sold my soul to JeepForum
 
FunkSkunk's Avatar
1992 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Marble, NC
Posts: 1,814
I've heard multiple people tell me that the MORE kit limits your turning radius. www.wnccustomjeeps.com makes a better one for the Dana 30 that doesn't limit it.
__________________
Don't Click Me!
FunkSkunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-20-2004, 07:07 PM   #6
AprilzWarrior
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: CA
Posts: 144
Poison Spyder Custom HD Steering here...

I love to Bash it.

AW
AprilzWarrior is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-22-2004, 11:34 AM   #7
FunkSkunk
Sold my soul to JeepForum
 
FunkSkunk's Avatar
1992 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Marble, NC
Posts: 1,814
so post up some tips fellas!
__________________
Don't Click Me!
FunkSkunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-28-2004, 03:00 PM   #8
Chaz_TJ
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 4
http://www.goferitoffroad.com/products.htm

Look for tie rod flip.. Maybe easier and less expensive!!
Chaz_TJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-29-2004, 08:41 PM   #9
LOCKED UP
Senior Web Wheeler
 
LOCKED UP's Avatar
2000 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Close to Austin, TX
Posts: 3,865
Quote:
Originally Posted by FunkSkunk
I've heard multiple people tell me that the MORE kit limits your turning radius. www.wnccustomjeeps.com makes a better one for the Dana 30 that doesn't limit it.
Funk,

DO you know how/why it limits the turning radius?

Looking at it I can't see how it would ... but what do I know?
__________________
... an no sidewindin' bushwackin', hornswagglin' cracker croaker is gonna rouin me bishen cutter.

00 TJ
98 XJ
LOCKED UP is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-29-2004, 08:50 PM   #10
BART CJ5
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Center Point, IA
Posts: 164
For CJ's

If money is no object this kit includes steer stab relocator too, and you can go to a stock configured pitman if you have a lift.
http://www.jksmfg.com/formula_one_steering.htm
__________________
[COLOR=Red]'79 [/COLOR] [COLOR=Silver]CJ5[/COLOR]
4" lift, 4 corner DT3000's, 33x12.5R15 TSL on black steel 15x8's (2"b.s.), full cage, [COLOR=Silver]C.C.[/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]4X4[/COLOR] 3/16x2x4 rear frame, [COLOR=Silver]C.C.[/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]4X4[/COLOR] S.R.S, stretched wheel base, [COLOR=Silver]C.C.[/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]4X4[/COLOR] front and rear bash bumpers, work in progress.
BART CJ5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-01-2004, 04:51 AM   #11
BamaJeeper
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Alabama
Posts: 1,468
This guys parts are reasonably priced and is highly recommended at pirate4x4.
When I get high steer arms he will be the one I call.
http://www.partsmikeparts.com/

He also has the correct studs and conical nuts for fastening high steer arms to GM flat top knuckles.


Oh yeah.
The pic in the first post should have a safety washer between the bolt and heim so the heim does not slide up and over the bolt when the heim fails.
__________________
Out of the darkness comes light.

Last edited by BamaJeeper; 02-01-2004 at 04:54 AM..
BamaJeeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-11-2004, 09:18 PM   #12
FunkSkunk
Sold my soul to JeepForum
 
FunkSkunk's Avatar
1992 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Marble, NC
Posts: 1,814
would anyone be able to use a template for High steer for the D30?? I have one i could scan if anyone wants it.
__________________
Don't Click Me!
FunkSkunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-12-2004, 07:13 AM   #13
dzp
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 632
I possibly could. I've got a friend that wants to move it up after bending a few. His is on a CJ7.
__________________
[email]zack@dzpdrafting.com[/email]
Tyler, Texas
97 TJ, Red, 33" MTR's, Locked F/R, D30/Ford8.8, JKS Disco's, DT3000's, tinted Sailcloth top, 8k Ramsey, Custom bumpers/armor, Ramps 890 on 25degree ramp.
[URL=http://www.dzpdrafting.com]DZP Drafting & Fabrication[/URL]
[URL=http://www.jeepet.com]Jeeps of East Texas Club[/URL]
[URL=http://www.tkff.com]Tyler Kung Fu & Fitness[/URL]
dzp is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-12-2004, 01:50 PM   #14
FunkSkunk
Sold my soul to JeepForum
 
FunkSkunk's Avatar
1992 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Marble, NC
Posts: 1,814
its really only to raise up the drag to parrallel similar to the MORE kit
__________________
Don't Click Me!
FunkSkunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-12-2004, 10:02 PM   #15
eight
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: College Station, TX
Posts: 354
Tips?

Steering links are pretty basic. You need somethin to use as a rod, tap threads into the rod or use weld in inserts, and rod ends.

If tapping threads, you need something with a max of 11/16" ID. 1.25 x .25" wall is popular for this. That size is fine if you don't plan on hitting it as with high steer. If the steering is left low, a piece of 1 1/4" sch 40 pipe will fit over it and provide some more strength. Weld the pipe to the tube at the ends and a few rosset welds along the length of it. Mine is done like this.

If you are going to use weld-in threaded inserts, a few popular materials are 1.5 x .25" wall tubing, 1" sch 40 pipe sleeved with 1 1/4" sch 40 pipe, or 1 1/4" sch 160 (.25" wall).

The standard heim joints used for steering are 3/4" shank, with 3/4" or 5/8" bolt holes. I prefer the 5/8" holed ones because they offer more angle and I never hear of anyone breaking the 5/8" bolt. The best deal I can find on good heims is the extra high strength ones from Jegs. You will need misalignment washers for the drag link. They are tapered spacers to space the heim body away from the steering arm and the bolt. Without these there is little angle before binding.

If you want to use stock style tie rod ends there are weld in threaded inserts for them too. Or you can find the correct size of tube and have it tapped.

Don't forget to order jam nuts. They're just thin fine thread nuts but can be hard to find.

Don't be discouraged if you bend your steering. It happens. It can be straightened.
__________________
[url=http://www.tamor.org/]Texas A&M Off-Road[/url]

Last edited by eight; 02-12-2004 at 10:10 PM..
eight is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Suggested Threads





Jeep, Wrangler, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, and other models are copyrighted and trademarked to Jeep/Chrysler Corporation. JeepForum.com is not in any way associated with Jeep or the Chrysler Corp.