No A pilar of any kind? Just the windshield frame. Beefs up the rest of the cage a bit but doesn't seem to address the main weakness of the stock cage.
Lol I no i should have but I didn't want bars along the windshield...and shhhh don't tell anyone but it's mainly for looks haha...and I had to work with what I got a guy did it for me for pretty cheap.
It's a jeep thing...you wouldn't understand :)
6 point frame tie ins, and seats and harnesses are mounted to cage
00XJ limited.....Tons, ORI's, Caged
92xj....Linked, Locked, Caged, Armored...RIP
what are leaf springs?
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I have never commented on this thread before, so sorry if i interrupt and ongoing discussion here, I just have a quick question. I wanted the opinions of people with real world experience and you seem like an experienced bunch
Can anyone here attest to the strength of a sleeved and rosette welded butt joint vs the strength of a 90* joint where one piece is coped (ie a 'T' joint)? Talking shear force. It seems to me that the sleeved joint would be just as strong, but it's such an unconventional technique that I'm not familiar with its real world strength attributes. Thanks!
I don't know how it compares to other joints, but internal sleeved joints that are plug/rosette welded and butt welded are commonly used in all kinds of racing, so I wouldn't worry about the sleeve joint. I've been doing alot of research on cages as I'm about to start my first cage (research including cages from race cars, because there's alot of good information there as well!)
Alot of stuff that I've seen specifies that the sleeve extend at least 2x the tube diameter inside each tube (so if 2" tube, then the sleeve needs to be at least 8" long, 4" on each side?), the sleeve wall thickness the same as the main tube wall thickness, a fit that's not loose, and then 4 rosette welds. Not sure if that means 4 on each side, or 4 total. It seems to be a very common joint, even on a brand new cage, not just a repair job.
How often do yall use sleeve joints on newly constructed cages?
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