*Official* Cage idea/pic/discussion thread - Page 6

**tube yj** · 02-23-2005, 08:05 PM

yep they kill you with the price of dies.

btw my cage is built with 2 inch dom, but alot of people go with 1.75 tubing. pick one and drop the cash on the dies

you may want to check out www.4wdfactory.com they carry protools benders which are very comparble to the JD models

dirtgrip · 02-23-2005, 08:55 PM

you may want to check out www.4wdfactory.com they carry protools benders which are very comparble to the JD models[/QUOTE]
Link is dead-who else has protool benders??

**tube yj** · 02-23-2005, 09:00 PM

they are local to me and alot of people from pirate are buying from them. give them a call, they have been having some website problems lately

512-759-6267

dirtgrip · 02-23-2005, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tube yj

they are local to me and alot of people from pirate are buying from them. give them a call, they have been having some website problems lately

512-759-6267

Thanks for the info-will try them later.

**FunkSkunk** · 02-24-2005, 05:49 PM

I bought my Pro-Tools bender from Mike Green off the pirate board too, www.mikegreen4x4.com great product and Mike knows a ton about the ProTools bender, give him a call if your not sure what to get he'll spend the time explaining it and giving suggestions.

PS - mike's yellow CJ was on the cover of JP a few months back!

1BLKJP · 02-24-2005, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FunkSkunk

what ya think?..................................

I like this one, but would like to see some more lateral supports. Granted you can't see what is sitting behind the seats, but some triangulation to the floor would make that pretty much a perfect cage. And maybe some more gusseting.

Oh, and Mike Green's site is down until May of 2005 it says.

**FunkSkunk** · 03-08-2005, 01:17 PM

Pirate just posted these up of a rollover that happened at 43rd annual TDS event. Just another dumby that thought it would be good to build a cage out of pipe..

**FunkSkunk** · 03-08-2005, 01:19 PM

and the carnage...........

Tierra Del Sol Safari --> http://www.pirate4x4.com/trailreports/tds_buildup05/index.html

RideRed04 · 03-08-2005, 02:18 PM

There are WAY more and bigger issues as to why that failed then the material choice. If you really know what you are doing, you could probably build a cage to hold up to that roll with pipe. Why, when tube is stronger and lighter is up in the air.

**sentinal02** · 03-08-2005, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RideRed04

There are WAY more and bigger issues as to why that failed then the material choice. If you really know what you are doing, you could probably build a cage to hold up to that roll with pipe. Why, when tube is stronger and lighter is up in the air.

yes, like putting a weld right at the buckle point at the dash. i've heard of pre collapsed frames that are designed to buckle at certain points in the event of a crash, so as to absorb the impact in a certain way, but never a roll cage

RideRed04 · 03-08-2005, 07:42 PM

That, and the poor penetration were the first things I noticed (after the pipe thread..hah!), but look a little closer, the one pipe is cut half way through! I'm not sure what the deal is there...but that's just crazy!

**sentinal02** · 03-08-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RideRed04

That, and the poor penetration were the first things I noticed (after the pipe thread..hah!), but look a little closer, the one pipe is cut half way through! I'm not sure what the deal is there...but that's just crazy!

i think that "cut" might just be a line drawn on the pipe with a marker. if it is a cut then that's just plain scary

**FunkSkunk** · 08-31-2005, 08:39 AM

thread has been dead for a while. Anyone actually build a cage yet?? What techniques did you use? Any ideas used that have been discussed?

**BESRK** · 08-31-2005, 10:10 AM

I just went back and browsed thru this entire thread looking at pics of cages. I just got my Model 3 bender and a 1.75"x6.5" die. I've already got a cage in Big Lime but I'm gonna redo some areas and beef it up a bit. Also, gonna do some radiator protection. I'll post pics when I'm done.. hopefully in the next week or two...

sjlplat · 08-31-2005, 10:22 AM

Just had my cage "repaired". Good design, bad craftsmanship. SOB did a killer job with the repairs, and it should be good for at least few moderate rolls or one really hard roll.

The factory B and C pillars were used as a base to build off of. The cage was originally built with 1.75" OD .120 wall DOM. The X between the B pillars was cut out, due to space restrictions with the seats, the dash and windshield bars were cut out and replaced with 1.75" OD .120 wall HREW due to short tubing being filled in with a welder, and the main hoop was sleeved at the B pillar for the same reason. The C pillars were tied into the frame with a sandwich plate and 1.75" OD .120 wall HREW, and a harness bar was installed at the B pillars. Seat bars were built with 1.75" OD .120 wall HREW, and the seats were bolted to 1/4" plate tabs. The cage is bolted in 6 places with 3/8" Grade 8 bolts. 4 front and rear with sandwich plates to frame tie-ins, and in the factory location at the B pillars, where the body crossmember attaches directly to body mounts.

03-08-2005, 02:18 PM	#84
RideRed04 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Strum, Wisconsin Posts: 1,245 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	There are WAY more and bigger issues as to why that failed then the material choice. If you really know what you are doing, you could probably build a cage to hold up to that roll with pipe. Why, when tube is stronger and lighter is up in the air. __________________ 1989 YJ: 3.5" of lift, 36" irok's, warn 9.5ti, d44's 1998 XJ classic for DD, a little lift, a little tires

03-08-2005, 07:42 PM	#86
RideRed04 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Strum, Wisconsin Posts: 1,245 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	That, and the poor penetration were the first things I noticed (after the pipe thread..hah!), but look a little closer, the one pipe is cut half way through! I'm not sure what the deal is there...but that's just crazy! __________________ 1989 YJ: 3.5" of lift, 36" irok's, warn 9.5ti, d44's 1998 XJ classic for DD, a little lift, a little tires

08-31-2005, 10:22 AM	#90
sjlplat Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,231 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	Just had my cage "repaired". Good design, bad craftsmanship. SOB did a killer job with the repairs, and it should be good for at least few moderate rolls or one really hard roll. The factory B and C pillars were used as a base to build off of. The cage was originally built with 1.75" OD .120 wall DOM. The X between the B pillars was cut out, due to space restrictions with the seats, the dash and windshield bars were cut out and replaced with 1.75" OD .120 wall HREW due to short tubing being filled in with a welder, and the main hoop was sleeved at the B pillar for the same reason. The C pillars were tied into the frame with a sandwich plate and 1.75" OD .120 wall HREW, and a harness bar was installed at the B pillars. Seat bars were built with 1.75" OD .120 wall HREW, and the seats were bolted to 1/4" plate tabs. The cage is bolted in 6 places with 3/8" Grade 8 bolts. 4 front and rear with sandwich plates to frame tie-ins, and in the factory location at the B pillars, where the body crossmember attaches directly to body mounts.