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post #871 of 1106 Old 12-30-2012, 12:18 AM
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Here are some progress pics. The front A pillar has no bend in the center but still has a brow/eyes look. LOL. CJ5's are fairly small were head and legroom are concerned. I have worked myself into a corner as far as the last details go, I do not have a good plan for front seat (B pillar) shoulder harness mounts. Originally, I had hoped to put some triangulation going to the floor and gusset some harness tabs here, but the B pillar sits right at the seat and foot room for the back is only about 10". How have other CJ5s worked this out (please don't say "trade it for a 7")?

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post #872 of 1106 Old 12-31-2012, 06:38 PM
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post #873 of 1106 Old 01-17-2013, 10:26 AM
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THIS is why you need a good solid, well designed, frame mounted cage. This is my friend James' Jeep. He rolled/flipped 8 times off the side of a mountain. He walked away. The Cage has been replaced and he wheels it still.

Here are the videos.

The roll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uACVL1aKK6k

The aftermath
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post #874 of 1106 Old 01-17-2013, 10:40 AM
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THIS is why you need a good solid, well designed, frame mounted cage. This is my friend James' Jeep. He rolled/flipped 8 times off the side of a mountain. He walked away. The Cage has been replaced and he wheels it still.

Here are the videos.

The roll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uACVL1aKK6k

The aftermath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbn7Q2u3vAo

Not doggin on your friend at all. And glad he is ok

But had that cage had triangulation in it. I think it would have held its shape alot better and not deformed as much.

Pretty good roll down that hill though haha

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post #875 of 1106 Old 01-17-2013, 11:01 AM
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I've seen so called "expert fabrication" company cages fold under less. A lot has to be said for that cage to experience what it did and hold up so well.

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post #876 of 1106 Old 01-17-2013, 12:13 PM
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I've seen so called "expert fabrication" company cages fold under less. A lot has to be said for that cage to experience what it did and hold up so well.
Not enough can be said about how it held up. That was amazing how fast that "typical" situation changed. Well done!

A lot has to be said for the "built not bought" cliche. All the hours of work put in that rig paid off. Thanks for posting that, I have been frustrated at the amount of time I am putting in our cj5 and just want to get in the dirt. That was a reality check, do it right once the first time, you may not get a second chance at it.
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Just did another cage this weekend for a friend. The front half is a Ploy Performance kit and then I added some custom additions to the rear as well as frame tie-ins. Fairly simple and clean and I think it turned out nice.









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post #878 of 1106 Old 01-21-2013, 07:29 PM
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Not doggin on your friend at all. And glad he is ok

But had that cage had triangulation in it. I think it would have held its shape alot better and not deformed as much.

Pretty good roll down that hill though haha
Agreed.

i find it suprising how many Kit cages for jeeps have little to no triangulation in them. and that was a custom built cage, but did not appear to have much triangulation in it from what you could see. Yes it held up surprisingly well considering the roll it went through.

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One im in the middle of building right now.

Built off a halo , and a bit more tube to add. But all seats and harnesses are built into the cage.







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One im in the middle of building right now.

Built off a halo , and a bit more tube to add. But all seats and harnesses are built into the cage.
That back seat isn't that common. I like it. I want to see finished pics.
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Does anyone know of or have you come across any roll tube attachment collars that bolt on, besides the ones from Rockhard 4x4? I'd like to be able to add some pieces to my 6 pt. frame tied in cage such as an angled tube across the B-pillars behind the seat or to tie the angled C-pillars together, but have them be removable when utilizing the rear seat for passengers.

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Does anyone know of or have you come across any roll tube attachment collars that bolt on, besides the ones from Rockhard 4x4? I'd like to be able to add some pieces to my 6 pt. frame tied in cage such as an angled tube across the B-pillars behind the seat or to tie the angled C-pillars together, but have them be removable when utilizing the rear seat for passengers.
look into these tube clamps,

alot of guys use them for exo cages and shock hoop spreaders above engines.

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Does anyone know of or have you come across any roll tube attachment collars that bolt on, besides the ones from Rockhard 4x4? I'd like to be able to add some pieces to my 6 pt. frame tied in cage such as an angled tube across the B-pillars behind the seat or to tie the angled C-pillars together, but have them be removable when utilizing the rear seat for passengers.
I was looking into that as well for a "X" on the B pillar but after looking at it my B pillar is just a tad behind my shoulder when sitting down, that would cause me to have a bend in each outer point at the "X". It may not be much but I know that a bend in any piece of metal reduces it's ability to stay straight and will aid in bending.

I think the only way I'd do an "X" would be to move the B pillar back as far as you can behind the seat so that the "X" tubing will be a straight shot without any bends.

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Yes, I know what your saying. I was wondering what of room I might have. Mine is currently apart so I couldn't check it out. I've seen the ones for shoulder harness connections and they have a curve right before their attachment to the B-pillar, but they also aren't diagonal either. And to use the A-Z type above that jeepinhokie posted would almost have to have a short pigtail tube welded off the side to add that coupler, but then theres still the issue of seat clearance.
My B-pillar is the stock Jeep one and the rest is aftermarket hrew added to it. So moving mine back isn't an option for me.

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Yes, I know what your saying. I was wondering what of room I might have. Mine is currently apart so I couldn't check it out. I've seen the ones for shoulder harness connections and they have a curve right before their attachment to the B-pillar, but they also aren't diagonal either. And to use the ones above that jeepinhokie posted would almost have to have a short pigtail tube welded off the side to add that coupler, but then theres still the issue of seat clearance.
My B-pillar is the stock Jeep one and the rest is aftermarket hrew added to it. So moving mine back isn't an option for me.
I hear you. Not sure in a CJ but in my TJ even if I left the B pillar in the stock location and ran a "X" with bends in it the back seat would be unusable when the bracing installed. I have a 2 year old son so having easy access is a must for me, with the adapters pictured above, there would be a small piece welded to the cage and stick off just like you said. That would be a head and foot banger for rear seat passengers all the time even without the bracing installed.

I think once my son gets a few years older I'll start adding some more tubing here and there as I see fit. Then I can make it to where the seats are bolted to the cage and more my rear seat back a few inches to help with the legroom when my "X" brace is installed. There is a choice to be made when deciding what to build, it's hard to balance convenience and safety.

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