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Unread 08-05-2012, 07:36 AM   #811
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Zach here's the A pillar foot I ended up with.
I got 2 through the channel, and 2 just to the inside of it.



Got the tubes all cleaned up and tacked together, but broke my T50 so I can't pull the family bar for the rest of the finish welding & painting.
Another day I guess...



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Unread 08-09-2012, 08:55 PM   #812
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Zach here's the A pillar foot I ended up with.
I got 2 through the channel, and 2 just to the inside of it.



Got the tubes all cleaned up and tacked together, but broke my T50 so I can't pull the family bar for the rest of the finish welding & painting.
Another day I guess...

can i see a pic of how you tied that into the frame?
i will be needing all the help i can get when i build my CJ cage.
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Unread 08-11-2012, 06:45 AM   #813
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can i see a pic of how you tied that into the frame?
i will be needing all the help i can get when i build my CJ cage.
I did not do anything below the jeep yet. I want to focus on the cage for now, I'll come back later and add frame - A pillar and fram - B pillar mounts, and likely eliminate some body mounts in the process.

Now this is all 1-3/4" DOM so far, but would 3/4" pipe triangles help at all? or just add weight? Like 2 pieces coming from the center of the B pillar spreader to the top of the C pillar

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Unread 08-11-2012, 06:52 AM   #814
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I did not do anything below the jeep yet. I want to focus on the cage for now, I'll come back later and add frame - A pillar and fram - B pillar mounts, and likely eliminate some body mounts in the process.

Now this is all 1-3/4" DOM so far, but would 3/4" pipe triangles help at all? or just add weight? Like 2 pieces coming from the center of the B pillar spreader to the top of the C pillar
IMO more triangulation adds more strength.

And when you have some frame tie ins post pics please.
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Unread 08-11-2012, 02:34 PM   #815
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I did not do anything below the jeep yet. I want to focus on the cage for now, I'll come back later and add frame - A pillar and fram - B pillar mounts, and likely eliminate some body mounts in the process.

Now this is all 1-3/4" DOM so far, but would 3/4" pipe triangles help at all? or just add weight? Like 2 pieces coming from the center of the B pillar spreader to the top of the C pillar
I think you're asking about two bars above the rear passenger's head. I suggest it and will be doing the same. Another idea is to add an LED third brake light up there. I'm pleased with mine. (It's described in my build thread.)
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Unread 08-12-2012, 05:38 AM   #816
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Damn 3rd brake light would have been cool, but I missed out on a hole where I added the spreader.
Made little grab bars up front, then decided against anything else.
Done. For now. There's a lot more I could add to it to really make it a cage, but for what it is, it's gotta be stronger than stock.
All thats left is just gotta wrestle it back in there.

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Unread 08-12-2012, 08:54 AM   #817
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Some diagonal bracing on the main hoop would add some much needed triangulation. With out the bracing, a sideways flop will bend the cage off to the side. In a full roll, the cage will collapse right down on top of the seats.



Is that a TJ main cage? I'm not too fond of the crimped sections and holes.....
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Unread 08-12-2012, 06:38 PM   #818
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Is that a TJ main cage? I'm not too fond of the crimped sections and holes.....
Yep.
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Unread 08-21-2012, 04:13 PM   #819
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Although not a Jeep, a cage would of meant little to no injuries. I've been through this trail many times and there are places you can roll a long ways.

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Unread 09-21-2012, 08:59 AM   #820
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Yeah a proper cage and harnesses would go a long way there. And remember- if you don't put handles on your cage, your passengers will use the cage as a handle, and in a roll they will break most of the bones in their hands/fingers. Handles are required if the top can come off
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Unread 09-21-2012, 10:24 AM   #821
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Agreed. And handles of a smaller diameter tube, set to the inside so it gives you that extra space, should it roll while holding that handle. I will have 2 center bars above the front passengers and I plan on putting smaller angled tubes there to serve as both gussets and handles.
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Unread 09-21-2012, 02:24 PM   #822
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I instruct my passengers to cross their arms across their chest and grab the opposing shoulder strap (I have 4pt belts in every seat). That helps keep their arms inside the vehicle and also helps keep their body in the seat. I have saw a lot of bruised/broken elbows from arms flailing around, never leaving the cage but hitting stuff inside the Jeep (driver hitting passenger included).
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Unread 09-23-2012, 12:42 PM   #823
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was wondering if some guys could post some pics of the harness bars. I need to install a lower and upper harness bar. would like to see some pics please.
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Unread 10-12-2012, 09:19 AM   #824
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Wow, long thread. I've been thinking about getting a cage lately. After reading this and a few other threads I'm probably going to go with the AtoZ Fabrications kit that adds onto the factory cage. After reading about the benefits of having diagonals in the main hoop (B-pillar), I want to add something like that while still retaining the ability to use the rear seat. I usually have passengers when during trips.

I stole this picture from an earlier post in this thread, the green is what I plan on adding.


I know that it isn't the best design as far as strength is concerned but it still give room for people to get to the back seat, and has to be stronger than not having anything there. The vertical sections will attach to a piece of C-channel that will be placed over the tunnel just behind the console. Any suggestions or alternative ideas are welcome.

Edit: Not that it helps the cage, but it would make a handy spot to mount some cup holders for the rear passengers too.
I'm interested in this as well. I have a 2 year old son that has a car seat in the back that we use frequently. The jeep is a 3rd vehicle and not a DD but I do want it a "friendly" as I it can be with getting in and out of the back while still being safe.

I know it will not be the best cage or even close to buggy worthy. I'm not a pedal to the metal wheeler and will pull a line if I get in a bad situation, that said, I also understand a roll over will happen before you know it and can be bad which is why I need to find a compromise between "best cage possible" and "good DD usability".

Also, I plan on adding small gussets there and there to aid with strength as well as tie down points. I was thinking of putting a couple where the 2 parallel bars running from the windshield to the b pillar hoop in the center. Right in that corner parallel to the ground, so basically right above the center console.
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Unread 10-13-2012, 08:04 PM   #825
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I made some parts to make tube splicing easyer. Insteed of just using 1 1/4" .120 wall for inserts, I took some random 1.5" 1/4 wall and truned them down to fit the ID of the 1.5" .120 wall tube.
But I left a .40thou ridge about .80 thou wide, should give a perfect bevel for the the two tubes to be spliced.

Made a hanful of these,





I left them as a ruff cut as they will be burried under tube and weld.

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