*Official* Cage idea/pic/discussion thread - Page 3

**FunkSkunk** · 01-20-2005, 07:43 PM

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**FunkSkunk** · 01-20-2005, 07:44 PM

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**tube yj** · 01-20-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FunkSkunk

found some more pics.......... o and gotta love the poison spyder customs gussets! also www.bluetorchfab.com has a ton as well

the picture that launched a 20 page thread on pirate

the gussets are nice but look at the welds they are using on there cages

**tube yj** · 01-20-2005, 08:11 PM

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i am not a big fan of that YJs cage. it looks cool but i see a lack of a decent b pillar. Unless someone can point it out to me

RideRed04 · 01-20-2005, 08:18 PM

I agree, when I first saw that, I though how awsome it looked. After I looked at it for a bit, it didn't appear that it would take a decent roll too well. It's hard to say with the triangulation going right the bend in the b-pillar, it may work. All the stress at that point would be transfered into the diagonal bar behind the seats, going then into the floor support. I may be wrong, but that's my observation.

**FunkSkunk** · 01-20-2005, 08:20 PM

I agree, its a really bad design, already got the bends started so when if rolls it will just fail.

**FunkSkunk** · 01-20-2005, 08:22 PM

its got good points and looks real clean, but the design just doesn't make sense

**tube yj** · 01-20-2005, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FunkSkunk

its got good points and looks real clean, but the design just doesn't make sense

oh now i remeber that cage. it was reference in one of my favorite jeep forum threads ever

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f27/phat-jeeps-off-road-80577/

what an idiot

**sentinal02** · 01-21-2005, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tube yj

oh now i remeber that cage. it was reference in one of my favorite jeep forum threads ever

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80577

what an idiot

guess someone forgot to tell them that 4 bar linkages are meant for motion transfer, not structuarl support. fun reading tube

**sentinal02** · 01-21-2005, 02:43 AM

interesting theories between the break-away capsule idea vs the frame tie-in design. thoughts and opinions?

**tube yj** · 01-21-2005, 10:05 AM

personally i will stick with my cage being solidly attached to the frame. Even if my cage is "cookie cutter" according to the geniuses that frequent phat jeeps offroad

BART CJ5 · 01-21-2005, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tube yj

the picture that launched a 20 page thread on pirate

the gussets are nice but look at the welds they are using on there cages

I was goint to coment on those welds too. They look like hell. I can't believe PSC would have that kind of crap on there stuff unless it is just a cover pass to give it some kinda bling factor.

**tube yj** · 01-21-2005, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BART CJ5

I was goint to coment on those welds too. They look like hell. I can't believe PSC would have that kind of crap on there stuff unless it is just a cover pass to give it some kinda bling factor.

go and search on pirate for it. the shop forman got on a defended it and that is not an cover bead. IF the weld was just on the gusset but if you look at the rest of the cage, all the welds on the cage are like that

BART CJ5 · 01-21-2005, 04:33 PM

Don't they look pretty rough to you? I don't see much penetration.

**tube yj** · 01-21-2005, 06:18 PM

no i agree they are horrible. I am just saying that PSC tried to pass them off as a acceptable welding technique. They are nothing more than alot of overlaping tack welds

01-20-2005, 08:18 PM	#35
RideRed04 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Strum, Wisconsin Posts: 1,245 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	I agree, when I first saw that, I though how awsome it looked. After I looked at it for a bit, it didn't appear that it would take a decent roll too well. It's hard to say with the triangulation going right the bend in the b-pillar, it may work. All the stress at that point would be transfered into the diagonal bar behind the seats, going then into the floor support. I may be wrong, but that's my observation. __________________ 1989 YJ: 3.5" of lift, 36" irok's, warn 9.5ti, d44's 1998 XJ classic for DD, a little lift, a little tires

01-21-2005, 04:33 PM	#44
BART CJ5 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Center Point, IA Posts: 164 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	Don't they look pretty rough to you? I don't see much penetration. __________________ [COLOR=Red]'79 [/COLOR] [COLOR=Silver]CJ5[/COLOR] 4" lift, 4 corner DT3000's, 33x12.5R15 TSL on black steel 15x8's (2"b.s.), full cage, [COLOR=Silver]C.C.[/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]4X4[/COLOR] 3/16x2x4 rear frame, [COLOR=Silver]C.C.[/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]4X4[/COLOR] S.R.S, stretched wheel base, [COLOR=Silver]C.C.[/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]4X4[/COLOR] front and rear bash bumpers, work in progress.