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Unread 03-04-2006, 03:06 PM   #1
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Need opinion on welders ASAP!!!

I Have been tinkering with my YJ for a few months now and I realize I need a welder. I am going to build a couple of bumpers and do an 8.8 swap etc .. etc..

I decided for my application I will probably be best off with a wirefeeder flux core/mig setup.

The two welders I am deciding on are either the lincoln 3200hd or the lincoln 100hd What are the major differences???

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Unread 03-04-2006, 08:06 PM   #2
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I would buy a miller 210. I am a miller fan.
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Unread 03-04-2006, 08:25 PM   #3
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I've had my Hobart Handler 130 for 10 years now. Only complaint is the low duty cycle, but AFAIK, that's common with the 110V rigs.
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Seriously, there is at least a half dozen other threads on this subject already.
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Unread 03-04-2006, 09:06 PM   #5
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I'm not too concerned about the duty cycle. I am in no hurry. Schmoken how has the hobart performed for you?? That is pretty much the same setup as what I am thinking about buying. I am buying the welder tomorrow. Given your experience which one would you buy and why??? the specs on the two machines are here hd100 vs the hd3200

http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Catalog/equipmentseries.asp?browse=114|2690|
they are the 9th ant 14th ones on the list. TIA any input is appreciated
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Seriously, there is at least a half dozen other threads on this subject already.

I understand how to use the search option. If you can find me the comparison ont these two welders post it please.
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if your welding axle brackets and suspension items i wouldnt go lower then a 175. maybe a 135.
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Unread 03-05-2006, 07:18 AM   #8
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Took a quick look at the setups. They seem to be very similar but with the 3200 you get a gas regulator too. That's a plus.
The 3200 is very close to my setup.
I did all my work with flux core wire. 90% of the time I was outside in the wind anyway.
My little 110V box was used on my old Jeep for perches in a spring over, a saginaw steering box mount, a bomebrew beefy ps pump mount/bracket, and bumpers. This was in '97/'98. No problems so far. That Jeep is still in the family going strong.
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Unread 03-05-2006, 09:19 AM   #9
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Hey thanks I got the 3200 this morning someone else recomended it too. I appreciate the input it's nice to hear from personal experience. now I just have to figure out how to use it
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I understand how to use the search option. If you can find me the comparison ont these two welders post it please.
I've been welding for a couple of years now. I weld everything from 18 ga. sheet metal with TIG to 1 1/2" plate with stick, running it up above 150 amps. I've done some MIG, both short arc and spray arc and flux core, but I'm not a very big fan. I haven't used the Hobarts, but they're essentially re-badged Miller machines. I've used both Lincolns and Millers in all 4 processes and I prefer the arc that the Miller machines produce. If I was to buy a MIG/FCAW machine, I'd probably get a Hobart. My 2 cents, sorry if I sounded like a dick earlier.
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No worries mgertsch I know I'm a nubie at welding but I learn quickly and am not going to be using my welder for all that much stuff......... Well... now that I think of it I probably will use it more than I expected to. Mainly I wanted a machine that is capable relatively affordable and easy to learn on after researching the processes I think the lincoln 3200hd is going to suit me fine. It says it'l do 5/16 steel one pass with fcaw and 3/16 gmaw. I think this'll do me fine. It sounds like you have a good bit of experience do you weld for a living???
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I'm in a fairly extensive welding program. I've got a semester and a half left. This semester, I'm doing all of my structural stuff which concentrates on AWS, AMSE and API specs mostly. I certify in SMAW, GMAW, FCAW and GTAW next semester. I need to figure out what GTAW (TIG) certifications I'm going to get. I think I'm leaning towards Nuke or FAA certs.
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Unread 03-10-2006, 08:53 PM   #13
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i sell welding supplys for a living . hobart and miller are both made by miller .
buy a 220v imput machine like a challanger 175 or mm210 or equlivent in hobart
and buy from a true weldingsupply dist not walmart or lowes then when you have a problem you can take with some one who knowes what there talking about
also plan on using shielding gas [argon/co2] flux cored wires spatter bad
and if you count cleanup time and spatter they cost the same price

hope this info helps

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Unread 03-11-2006, 11:30 AM   #14
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also plan on using shielding gas [argon/co2] flux cored wires spatter bad
and if you count cleanup time and spatter they cost the same price
A lot of people say that. Its my experience that if you hold a consistent stick out and run quality wire that the spatter isn't bad. I run a lot of E6010. That is my reference for something spattering a lot. A good general fab tubular wire is any high quality ER70T-GS. We run Hobart or Lincoln wire at school for the most part and the T-GS doesn't spatter at all. It has a nice light slag coat that generally just peels off as the weld cools. Even with hard wire, I wouldn't waste my money on argon for steel. 100% CO2 works well. Salesmen like mixes because they're more expensive. I prefer the feel of straight CO2 on steel.

Like I've told everyone else that asks about machines, go take a few classes. Find what you like and what works for you. I shake like crazy and have no patients but I absolutely love TIG.
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