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Unread 07-10-2010, 07:37 PM   #16
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That is most likely correct

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Unread 07-12-2010, 01:34 PM   #17
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Ok, I bought a new randor setup from airgas (made by victor), and I ordered some LP tips, they were out of stock. Now I also just ordered a tank adapter (western #51 because the fuel regulator is a cga 300, instead of 510) for a couple of bucks. And I need to get an oxygen tank, which I will probably get when the tips come in, if I have enough money.

$200 for a 80CF tank (outright) or 75 a year lease on any larger tank, with a $200 deposit, or $175 for 5 years, no deposit.

I only have $160 right now

Haha, was browsing around the place I ordered the adapter. I could buy an 80cf oxygen tank for $145 (185 full, but its only like $14 for airgas to fill it). Not sure if I want bigger though..
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perfect depends on how far away you are when you look at it:D
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It's a 4.0 ... as long as there's something in the crank case that isn't coolant I'm sure it will still run forever.

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Unread 07-16-2010, 09:46 PM   #18
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Ok, well my dad is being awesome and said he would buy me an oxygen tank. SO naturally I am going to take up his offer, because that doesn't come along all that often.

But I have been split on what I should do. I dont know if a 80cf oxygen tank will be adequate for me. I have no idea how long it lasts, and I have been trying to figure out a rough number of like cf per minute it would consume, or how many inches i could cut or something like that, any kind of number or testimonial. I just dont want an 80cf tank to only last an hour of cutting or something, and then I be like, wow.. I wish I had rented a big ol tank instead.

SO someone tell me an 80cf tank will be fine for light use cutting with propane on metals 1/4" and less, and ill be happy.
Thanks!

BTW I know that the tip size would make a huge difference in oxygen consumption..
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It's a 4.0 ... as long as there's something in the crank case that isn't coolant I'm sure it will still run forever.
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Unread 07-17-2010, 01:05 PM   #19
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Did you get the RAD 64003004 torch set? Out here in CA. their on sale for $199.99, what did you pay?
An 80 cf cyl will give you a decent amount of cutting time and it's easier to handle than the larger ones.

I understand on the east coast you can't buy larger cylinders, you must rent, is that correct? Here on the west coast, we can buy any size, if you can't buy, that sucks.

At Airgas you can always "buy up" to a larger cylinder if need be, just pay the difference of the two cyls. My Airgas gives you 1/2 price on gas the first time, when you purchase the cylinder.
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Unread 07-17-2010, 02:03 PM   #20
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Yeah I got that torch set for 199.99 (retail 350), I guess its a nationwide sale.

Yeah I can't buy bigger than 80cf from airgas. I dont know about other places, but airgas is the most convenient for me to get too. I don't want bigger than 125 because I need to beable to easily transport it in the jeep. I am used to rolling the bigger tanks around the weld school, but they are way to impractical for me. I know the 80s are easy to move around, and fit in the jeep nicely, I have one for my mig.

I know about buying up, but I can't buy up if I have the biggest I can buy, lol. Of course they might take an 80cf tank as a downpayment for a rental if I wanted bigger.

Im pretty sure Ill just go in monday and buy the 80cf tank.
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It's a 4.0 ... as long as there's something in the crank case that isn't coolant I'm sure it will still run forever.
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Unread 07-19-2010, 11:51 AM   #21
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Bought a tank. Hooked up the grill propane, and ran some test cuts on 3/16". Works pretty good, now I just need to learn how to set the propane flame right. I know how to get a good feather with acetylene, but propane doesnt feather like that. Google...
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It's a 4.0 ... as long as there's something in the crank case that isn't coolant I'm sure it will still run forever.
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Unread 07-27-2010, 09:20 PM   #22
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Oxy/acetylene torch purchase.

Buy quality and you will have equipment that will last a lifetime.
The Victor Journeyman torch set is a good standard to go with.
Bite the bullet and get at least the medium size oxy and acetylene
Tanks. While you are at it get a decent welding cart with large wheels
to carry all your Oxy/Acetylene gear. This is not a small or cheap
purchase but after the buy you will be set from here on out. This gear
will last you forever.
One last word of advice,DoNot loan that stuff out. It will become junk
Instantly and then you can buy it again because your so called friends
who damage it won't.
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Unread 07-28-2010, 09:27 AM   #23
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Buy quality and you will have equipment that will last a lifetime.
The Victor Journeyman torch set is a good standard to go with.
Bite the bullet and get at least the medium size oxy and acetylene
Tanks. While you are at it get a decent welding cart with large wheels
to carry all your Oxy/Acetylene gear. This is not a small or cheap
purchase but after the buy you will be set from here on out. This gear
will last you forever.
One last word of advice,DoNot loan that stuff out. It will become junk
Instantly and then you can buy it again because your so called friends
who damage it won't.
Thanks for reading the thread so closely to give relevant information to my situation ...
I dont mean offense by that, but next time atleast skim the thread so you know what has been said, and what has been done already.

I bought an 80cf oxygen tank, a victor torch set, some grade T hoses, LP tips, and a cga 300 to cga 510 adapter.

I also threw together a cart yesterday from some rusty dirty scrap I had on hand, some twisted square, and some threaded rod, and some harbor freight wheels. Its not the fanciest cart, but it works.

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perfect depends on how far away you are when you look at it:D
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It's a 4.0 ... as long as there's something in the crank case that isn't coolant I'm sure it will still run forever.

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Unread 07-30-2010, 05:13 PM   #24
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I know you got your torch already, but I have been researching the same thing. I've decided to go with...

Smith MTA-30510 American Classic Medium Duty Combination Torch Outfit

Looks like even Victor is now made in China and Mexico, so I ruled them out. Next I'll get a cart and tanks.
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Unread 07-30-2010, 09:37 PM   #25
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I know you got your torch already, but I have been researching the same thing. I've decided to go with...

Smith MTA-30510 American Classic Medium Duty Combination Torch Outfit

Looks like even Victor is now made in China and Mexico, so I ruled them out. Next I'll get a cart and tanks.
We use the Victor and Smith torch heads at work day in,day out,really no difference in the quality at all,i have 3 Victor heads at home,one i keep for myself when i travel working because alot of companies will have JUNK to work with but want quality work on cuts .

Kettle,don't know if you have one already or not,but a "wash tip" is a handy tip to have around for washing out welds and gouging where needed
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Unread 07-30-2010, 10:15 PM   #26
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Ironworker709 do they make a propane wash tip just wondering I had not seen one but I have not looked maybe you had need to get out my Victor book I guess. If they don't that would be a good reason to have a bottle of Acet. wash tip are very handy I have a straight torch with a bent wash tip in my machine I use it all the time. I will look it up

Answered my own question they do make propane washing tips learned something new

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Unread 07-31-2010, 11:27 AM   #27
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Never heard of a wash tip, Ill have to look into it.
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It's a 4.0 ... as long as there's something in the crank case that isn't coolant I'm sure it will still run forever.
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