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post #1 of 27 Old 06-28-2010, 02:49 PM Thread Starter
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I want an oxy/fuel torch. Recommendations and Costs?

OK, so as the title says I could use an oxy-fuel torch. I need it primarily for cutting, but preheat uses for welding, and heating for bending and such are other important needs.

I have no idea how much money I need to have saved to get what I want. I know lowes and home depot have their little portable torch setups with the little tanks for around 300, but I am worried that the oxygen wont last very long at all. I know the acetylene will last longer but I don't know by how much.

I also wouldn't mind an oxy/propane setup. The propane setup burns cooler, but I hear is great for cutting, which is my primary need. Propane is more readily available to me anyway. I know I would need a propane tip.

Obviously the bigger the oxygen tank the longer it will last, but I would like some degree of portability so what is a good sized tank for home and small fab uses. If/when I get more serious and more room Ill get a bigger setup.

What do you pros and amateurs recommend, and what will it cost me? I could bumble into airgas and start asking, but I would like some suggestions from you all first.

And yes I have used oxy/acetylene torches and am pretty good with them. If I could remotely afford it I would get a plasma.. but I dont have the money.. And I would need a air-compressor (which I do need anyway).


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perfect depends on how far away you are when you look at it:D
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It's a 4.0 ... as long as there's something in the crank case that isn't coolant I'm sure it will still run forever.
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I use the propane/oxygen set-up. It is alot cheaper than any other application, and unless you are going to use it all the time, it works great. My local weld shop suggested it due to the price of tanks. I bought my gauges and torch for about $100. Then I went to a local tank refurbishing company and bought 2 oxygen tanks for $100. When I am ready to cut something, I take the tank off my grill and away I go. It takes, I think, 4 more seconds for the propane to get to temp.

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I use the propane/oxygen set-up. It is alot cheaper than any other application, and unless you are going to use it all the time, it works great. My local weld shop suggested it due to the price of tanks. I bought my gauges and torch for about $100. Then I went to a local tank refurbishing company and bought 2 oxygen tanks for $100. When I am ready to cut something, I take the tank off my grill and away I go. It takes, I think, 4 more seconds for the propane to get to temp.
That is sounding good to me.

Now your from Louisville too so any specifics on where you got your stuff?

I know what my 80cf argon tank costs to fill, whats oxygen cost to fill here?

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It's a 4.0 ... as long as there's something in the crank case that isn't coolant I'm sure it will still run forever.
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Both of you should check out our club! We have members from Louisville and surrounding areas. All over the state actually....
Now back on topic. I recently bought an oxy acetylene setup. The whole setup was 700.00. Thats the tanks, regulaters, hose, & torch kit. I opted to buy the tanks due to the long haul cost of leasing. I love the setup and now don't know how i ever got around without it.


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I get all my tanks filled at Welding Therapy on Crittenden Dr. To get tanks for cheap, you can go to the Brooks exit and take a right at the end of the ramp. Go over the railroad tracks and take a left at the sign or light and look for the little building on the right and it will have a bunch of tanks sitting outside. You can buy your tanks there for a little of nothing. They actually provide Welding Therapy with their tanks. Good luck.

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I get all my tanks filled at Welding Therapy on Crittenden Dr. To get tanks for cheap, you can go to the Brooks exit and take a right at the end of the ramp. Go over the railroad tracks and take a left at the sign or light and look for the little building on the right and it will have a bunch of tanks sitting outside. You can buy your tanks there for a little of nothing. They actually provide Welding Therapy with their tanks. Good luck.
hmm.. I am having trouble figuring out where this is? I can't figure out what is the brooks exit is, sorry. But thanks for your help!

Any suggestion on tank size?

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I couldn't tell you the size. It's about armpit high if that helps.

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I have seen that before, but I would suspect its pretty cuts are more a result of skilled user, than anything else. But I tend to be a skeptic.
Although it is already an injector torch, so it should be up for propane, lol. I wonder if you ran an injector tip on a normal torch, if it would be more similar to the henrob.

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I know people who have used the Henrob torch, and the one thing the ads don't tell you, is that it is heavy, at least compared to a regular welding torch. I know a guy who welded up most or all of his tube fuselage with one, and then later upgraded to the Meco Midget, which is much smaller and lighter. That makes it easier to handle, less fatiguing to use, and it can weld in tight corners better. It's size won't affect the thickness of material you can weld, since that is controlled by the size of the tip. For cutting I would recommend a standard cutting torch, you will probably find that they are easier to hold when making cuts than the Henrob.
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I know people who have used the Henrob torch, and the one thing the ads don't tell you, is that it is heavy, at least compared to a regular welding torch. I know a guy who welded up most or all of his tube fuselage with one, and then later upgraded to the Meco Midget, which is much smaller and lighter. That makes it easier to handle, less fatiguing to use, and it can weld in tight corners better. It's size won't affect the thickness of material you can weld, since that is controlled by the size of the tip. For cutting I would recommend a standard cutting torch, you will probably find that they are easier to hold when making cuts than the Henrob.
Yeah I was just thinking about that. I can use the gas tubes on a normal torch as a slide along my left hand to make nice smooth cuts. I dont have a very steady hand, so when I weld and cut and everything I like to be able to brace myself as much as possible.


And I am not looking for an oxy fuel welding setup, so cutting is the main deal.

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You can't go wrong with Victor small or large cutting torch. I like MECO Regulators as inside they have a seat block that you can change by rotating the block if it starts bleeding up in the field.
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I think I am just going to go into airgas and see what they have, and what it will cost. I have no idea what the stuff goes for new. I know what people ask for a used set on craigslist, but most of them are off brands, and I feel they are over asking.

Plus I like getting new stuff. So. I know Victor Smith and Harris... and I know I can get LP tips easily for all 3. I assume airgas will carry atleast one of them.

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I you want to go LP I would check out the large tip Victor Don't know about KY but my are tips are much cheaper for the victor torches
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I you want to go LP I would check out the large tip Victor Don't know about KY but my are tips are much cheaper for the victor torches
I dont know what they have at the stores, but I can get the LP tips online for the major brands for about the same price across the board, depending where you look. Although locally I am sure victor stuff is easier to find.

I went to airgas, they aren't open on the weekends, so I headed to welders supply co., but they closed 20 mintues before I got there.. so ill try again monday.

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