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Unread 04-19-2013, 06:04 PM   #1
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HP 44 swap parts list, missing anything?

I recently bought a HP 44 from a 71 Bronco with the welded on radius arm mounts. I want to start buying the mounting parts we get it all welded up and rebuilt. Please check my parts list and tell me if I am missing anything, or if you have a better alternative, or brand.

-Ballistic Fab Steering Kit 3/4" with High Misalignment Spacers $240.99
-Ballistic Fab XJ-TJ combo bracket kit ( spring perches, shock mounts, track bar mount) $110.99
-Rubicon Express Upper control arm mounts with mini truss and bushings. $150.00
-Custom sway bar mounts
-G2 gears, 5.13 ratio and rebuild kit.

I also need to convert it to disc brakes so I am going to need to figure out the best alternative for that, if anyone has an idea to point to me.

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Unread 04-20-2013, 08:25 AM   #2
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Where do you plan on attaching the axle end of the draglink? I'd be concerned about the angle between it and the trackbar.

You will need disk brake knuckles and the associated brake pieces (calipers, lines, caliper brackets, pad, etc). You may also need different hubs and spindles but I do not know about those two.

What do you plan to do about the differing bolt pattern from front to rear?
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Unread 04-21-2013, 04:48 AM   #3
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Where do you plan on attaching the axle end of the draglink? I'd be concerned about the angle between it and the trackbar.

You will need disk brake knuckles and the associated brake pieces (calipers, lines, caliper brackets, pad, etc). You may also need different hubs and spindles but I do not know about those two.

What do you plan to do about the differing bolt pattern from front to rear?
Im working on the Drag link, I may go High steer, depending on what I have. I bought a 10 bolt for the braking stuff I need, but from what I understand the passenger side is not flat top, so If I could machine my early drum brake HP 44 knuckle then Highsteer, if not cross over with the heims doubled up like on the Ballistic fab kit.
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My plan with the rear is a JK 44 in the rear, and im going to redrill the shafts and rotor to 5x5.5
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Unread 04-21-2013, 09:48 AM   #4
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If going high steer then the axle side track bar mount will definitely need to be moved. It may be too low even where it's at on those brackets just by mounting it above the knuckle but I'm not positive.

Are you sure this is from a 71 Bronco axle? I thought a 71 EB is low pinion and has 260 u-joints. While the low pinion isn't a huge deal, the small 260 u-joints are IMO.

I also thought that EB axles were narrower than stock (59" IIRC) while JK axles are wider than stock (65" IIRC)
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Unread 04-21-2013, 12:48 PM   #5
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If going high steer then the axle side track bar mount will definitely need to be moved. It may be too low even where it's at on those brackets just by mounting it above the knuckle but I'm not positive.

Are you sure this is from a 71 Bronco axle? I thought a 71 EB is low pinion and has 260 u-joints. While the low pinion isn't a huge deal, the small 260 u-joints are IMO.

I also thought that EB axles were narrower than stock (59" IIRC) while JK axles are wider than stock (65" IIRC)
Yeah, if I go high steer I'm ready to make a custom track bar mount and I know the sway bar tabs will have to be custom. That's why I decided to make them myself with the plasma cutter and some 1/4" steel.

I don't think I'm going high steer as it add significant cost if my knuckles Aren't flat top (which I'm doubting) and I don't see the benefit being higher than the cost, with the way we wheel out here.

I'm not sure on the year of the axle, I know it has the tabs welded on, and drum brakes, but it is def high pinion. I hope it has the larger u joints. I'd have to check those out. I think it might have come out of an f100, I'm not sure. Ill measure the wms but it looks a lot wider than stock.


Edit: Based on this page, I think I'm fine. http://www.fourwheeler.com/techartic...s/viewall.html
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Unread 04-21-2013, 01:17 PM   #6
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Yea take some measurements and pull the thing apart and see what you actually have. It looks like EB axles have 6 bolt knuckles while full size have 5 bolt knuckles. That'll dictate what brakes you can use. You can only learn so much by reading on here.

I hope it doesn't seem like I'm trying to discourage you. Just giving you some things to look and prepare for.
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Unread 05-15-2013, 07:31 PM   #7
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fyi lots of good info...

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/b...a-44-a-747194/

I am snagging a hp44 on Sunday out of '76 F150. Disc brakes and 5x5.5. I am planning as of now to just run the Ford knuckles as I do not think flat top knuckles and a tie rod that high will work well for my 2.5" lift. Plan to set it up like my hp30 as far as the steering goes. $150 100% complete and 30 miles from my house. Yes please!
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