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Unread 04-28-2013, 10:14 PM   #1
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Homemade Rock sliders

I'm planning to make some custom rock sliders, seems like everyone uses round or square tube for theirs, I'm trying a different approach and am going to use plate. I know it's probably going to be on the heavy side vs round tubing but I like to be different. I have just one question, since this is going to be my first time making any body armor... To attempt to cut down on weight I'm thinking about going with 1/8" steel for the bulk of it, would it be able to take the impact of rocks? I will be using 3/16" or 1/4" for the braces to tie into the frame, but at almost 8 lbs a square foot for 3/16" plate I got a feeling my poor suspension won't like the whole thing made from it. IF, key word IF, my math is correct, each side will weigh in around 61 lbs with the mock design I have now using 3/16". Using 1/8" they'll each be around 46 lbs. Is the weight cut worth the integrity loss?

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'i'd like to see how you plan on using plate. are you planning on welding it together to make a box from it?

the issue is plate is its thin profile, only providing strength on 2 axis, leaving the 3rd main axis with little support in just a plate from depending on its orientation.
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depends on what you call rocks.....But I know 1/8 would be worthless here. Jk is an Elephant in the rocks. The Jk has an odd shape as well on its rocker panels. If you look its not straight like a Tj or Cj. It curves a bit. For the trouble unless you have a nice shop to fab these up. You can get some formed ones from Genright , Nemesis or PSC. even in alloy or steel.

a 4D needs to be very well built they are longer and more of a Elephant then its baby brother 2D.
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I'm going off the geometry of triangles are stout shapes theory on this one. It's a two door, 56 inches of total rocker to cover and if I stick with this design it'll basically look like a lot of the rear high clearance bumpers I see except on the side. I spent another couple hours just staring at it this afternoon and now there's a million ideas racing through my head.

Either way, 1/8" would be pretty worthless I guess? I might just bight the bullet and take the extra weight and do it right and go 3/16". Buying rock rails is just out of the question for me... I grew up in a welding and auto shop so my daddy raised me to believe don't be like the next guy and give the big man your dollar when you can make it yourself! Plus it's more fun this way and I know I'll end up with something unique to my jeep if I build my own.
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I'm going off the geometry of triangles are stout shapes theory on this one. It's a two door, 56 inches of total rocker to cover and if I stick with this design it'll basically look like a lot of the rear high clearance bumpers I see except on the side. I spent another couple hours just staring at it this afternoon and now there's a million ideas racing through my head.

Either way, 1/8" would be pretty worthless I guess? I might just bight the bullet and take the extra weight and do it right and go 3/16". Buying rock rails is just out of the question for me... I grew up in a welding and auto shop so my daddy raised me to believe don't be like the next guy and give the big man your dollar when you can make it yourself! Plus it's more fun this way and I know I'll end up with something unique to my jeep if I build my own.

I think you came to the right conclusion regarding the 1/8". I also agree about the fabricating it yourself if you have the gumption to do so. I say that....in alot of cases, you don't even have to have the "right" tools to do it....just a will and a way. I've seen a lot of ugly fab work that just just plain worked. Wasn't pretty...but extremely functional. However...just make sure what you produce serves it's intented purpose. Cheers !
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I think you came to the right conclusion regarding the 1/8". I also agree about the fabricating it yourself if you have the gumption to do so. I say that....in alot of cases, you don't even have to have the "right" tools to do it....just a will and a way. I've seen a lot of ugly fab work that just just plain worked. Wasn't pretty...but extremely functional. However...just make sure what you produce serves it's intented purpose. Cheers !
Function over fashion IMO. being pretty won't get you any farther down the trail.

i'm definitely interested to see what kind of design you come up with. with such short sliders it would be easier to keep structural integrity. I am a Full size guy, so most sliders i deal with are 70+ inch, heck built some at about 120" for an extended cab truck.
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Yep, have decided for sure it's gonna be 3/16". It'll be a few weeks to a month before I get started on these I'm sure. Getting married in two weeks and the soon to be wife thinks my time and money should be better spent. I think I'll just slip the steel into the garage piece by piece until she notices...
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Yep, have decided for sure it's gonna be 3/16". It'll be a few weeks to a month before I get started on these I'm sure. Getting married in two weeks and the soon to be wife thinks my time and money should be better spent. I think I'll just slip the steel into the garage piece by piece until she notices...
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That might work actually.... She doesn't have access to my bank yet so she'll never know! You sir, are a friggin genius!
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