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Unread 03-07-2011, 07:16 PM   #1
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Harbor freight welders

Ok, I know... they suck. I need to be able to do some light welding though and its what I can afford. They will be having a tent sale next week, Which would you buy?
This for $160:
http://www.harborfreight.com/welding...der-94164.html
Or this for $100:
http://www.harborfreight.com/welding...der-98871.html

The second welder is only 110V. It seems to get better reviews though. How much more could I do with the bigger welder? I am buying this to tack weld some brackets at home and then take it to be fully welded on a bigger better machine.

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Unread 03-07-2011, 07:30 PM   #2
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Is it just me or is it odd that a 220v welder only has 110amps? My Hobart 140 is 140amps but its a 110v machine.

Personally, if it were me, I'd hold that $200 and buy a used small miller, hobart, or lincoln. I got my Hobart damn near new for 400 with the regulator, bottle, helmet, gloves, extra spool of wire, etc, for $400. You would be better off buying a used name brand rather than a new HF welder. Chances are you wont get $200 worth of use out of it....
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I bought the 90 amp flux last year, its been ok for the 2 lightbars Ive built, but I wish I bought a MIG instead. Flux is very messy and requires lots of grinding.
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save your money till you can afford a Hobart, Lincoln or Miller.
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Unread 03-07-2011, 09:17 PM   #5
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I just bought the 151 220 v from harbor freight and its been just fine....I wouldnt start a welding shop with it but I built a new spare tire carrier and have done some body patching and its been more than adequate.
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save your money till you can afford a Hobart, Lincoln or Miller.
or surf craigslist for an older lincoln stick welder.
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Unread 03-07-2011, 10:04 PM   #7
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take that advise^ but for a mig. craigslist is the way to go, just make sure you can test it out.
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Unread 03-07-2011, 11:58 PM   #8
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A used miller or lincoln will go a long way and if you ever need to sell it or repair it, you can.

Search craigslist and try to find one that Did Not come out of a Home Depot or Lowes becuase they put cheaper parts on those things. We see it with the dewalt products that we sell and the home depot stuff has plastic parts on them. Same exact Dewalt Part Numbers with different parts.

I have seen 110v welders with cart, bottle, regulator, etc for under $300.

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Save for a better one. Then use it to make you some money back. I just used mine to make me some bumpers that would have cost me at least $500 so the extra money spent on the welder was well woth it. I built a front and rear bumper for less than $300 in materials and have enough materials left to build at least two more. I can sell them on craigslist for $200 a pop all day long.that makes mine free and eventually the welder free.
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I bought the 90 amp flux last year, its been ok for the 2 lightbars Ive built, but I wish I bought a MIG instead. Flux is very messy and requires lots of grinding.
What brand of wire have you been using? The HF wire is absolute garbage. Hobart brand flux core does sweeeeet welds
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I've been watching craigslist for a month now. I haven't seen anything under $400 except an antique stick welder and a used hf welder.
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Keep saving or sell some parts. Just because its a "welder" and its cheap, shouldn't be enough of a reason to run out and buy it. When it comes to welding gear, you really do get what you pay for.
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If it has tracks, tires or tits, its gonna cause a problem.

"Everytime someone "upgrades" a D35, an angel looses its wings."

"Dizzy" - What SnoopDog would call a Distributor if he was a mechanic. I cringe every time I hear this moronic term

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Send lawyers, guns and money. The **** has hit the fan...
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92, 2.5, 30, 8.8, 4.88, Locked, Winch, 15x8, 35's, 3.5" (RIP)
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As others have said, save your money and buy a lincoln/miller/hobart. I would also take an Esab if you happen to find one. I have two millers myself that have been just about problem free.
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I've been watching craigslist for a month now. I haven't seen anything under $400 except an antique stick welder and a used hf welder.
keep saving & looking at craigslist. I got my Hobart 140, with full bottle & gauges, for $350. Only thing its missing is the spool adapter for the big rolls.
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Unread 03-15-2011, 09:44 PM   #15
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I bought the $100 HF welder. I need to bolt in my 8.8 and tack the spring perches in so I can take it to be welded. I found someone to weld it all for $60. It gave me the itch for a real welder though. Ill keep watching CL for something decent. Thanks guys!
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