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Unread 02-19-2010, 11:35 AM   #61
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Hey man thats what i did I kept looking at all those pre-fabbed bumpers and just couldn't find one i really liked. Not to mention the fact that most of them are in the $500 range. So i just decided if i was gonna spend over $500 i might as well get myself into fabrication and just build my own bumpers, cage, and other parts i have planned. I can tell you that it feels great to finish a project like this and the best part is having the ability to build it however you want to get the look you want.

Next project is a rear swing away tire carrier and bumper. I'm hoping to get all the steel and stuff for that soon and get started! I really wanna get my 33" MTR off the stock carrier

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Unread 02-19-2010, 12:01 PM   #62
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For my spare I'm gonna use OBA and carry some tire plugs! I don't drive my jeep all that much so a spare is a waste for me. Dude could you email me the specs for that steering skidplate? I figure that should be easy enough to try first!
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Unread 02-19-2010, 01:44 PM   #63
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I carry tire plugs and i have onboard ait to install too. But the spare is there if i cut a sidewall or loose a bead on the trail where the plugs and air may not be able to fix the problem I picked up a brand new 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR on a steel wheel for $75 on craigslist. To me the spare is worth that much. I believe the guy i bought it from didnt know what he had because the new MTR alone costs 3x that lol

I can try to get a few measurements on the steering box skid for you. I don't have any on hand because when i was building it it was sorta off the top of my head with a lot of holding it up to my jeep to check and then cut. It was fairly simple though
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Unread 02-20-2010, 07:30 PM   #64
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Nah wasn't me, I was stuck in PA and DE all day. I won't be on these 30's for much long either! New 33's coming next Friday or the following Monday! I love your bumper, I keep looking at all these pre-fabbed ones too and I'm having a hard time making a decision, I might just go balls deep and buy a welder with my tax money
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Unread 02-27-2010, 06:32 PM   #65
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skid and bumper looks real good man, makes me want to learn welding and do it myself...which i want to lol
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Unread 02-27-2010, 06:41 PM   #66
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Nice looking bumper
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Unread 03-02-2010, 03:57 PM   #67
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this is a GREAT build. respect!

how did you weld the clevis points on both sides with box tubbing?

are you cutting a hole the same size as the mount and cutting a really large hole on the back of the box tube to get the welder to it?


getting ready to do the same build(copy yours) and can't figure out any way other then a surface weld for the clevis mounts.

also where did you buy yours? i found them at A to Z for $25 each
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Unread 03-02-2010, 07:10 PM   #68
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this is a GREAT build. respect!

how did you weld the clevis points on both sides with box tubbing?

are you cutting a hole the same size as the mount and cutting a really large hole on the back of the box tube to get the welder to it?


getting ready to do the same build(copy yours) and can't figure out any way other then a surface weld for the clevis mounts.

also where did you buy yours? i found them at A to Z for $25 each
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The clevis mounts you posted are flush mounts. I wouldn't recommend using them. They make clevis mounts that are 4.5" long and you cut an appropriate sized hole in the front and back of the tube and slip them all the way through leaving about 1/4-1/2" on the back.
What everyone means by "weld the shackle mounts on the front and back" is just that. You weld on outside surface of the face of the tube and the outside surface of the back of the tube

Also I got my clevis mounts from a fab shop on ebay for 12.99 a pair. I think it was like $20 shipped. I'll see if i can dig up a link or the sellers name

Here's a few pics that may explain better

Back of bumper

Front of bumper



Hope that helps
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Unread 03-02-2010, 11:26 PM   #69
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that helped allot. thank you much.

i'm doing my first welding project soon and this looks like a great one to try.

go big or go home. :,)

and god bless ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Clevi...s#ht_500wt_749
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Unread 03-07-2010, 04:20 PM   #70
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looks great though I kinda like the stinger look... how do you think you could put one on a bumper styled similar to that? I'm also thinking about fabbing up some bumpers but I got a frame swap and wire harness change first... just getting some ideas... I'm new to the fabbing world and teaching myself how to weld so any tips would be greatly appreaciated
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i got a stupid question, did you make your own mounts aw well to mount the bumper, and when you did, did you reinforce it so it wouldnt break off the first time you go to get towed out or use a winch? Pictures?
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looks great though I kinda like the stinger look... how do you think you could put one on a bumper styled similar to that? I'm also thinking about fabbing up some bumpers but I got a frame swap and wire harness change first... just getting some ideas... I'm new to the fabbing world and teaching myself how to weld so any tips would be greatly appreaciated
Practice, practice, practice Grab up all the scrap you can and run beads until you feel comfortable enough with setting up your machine and the quality of the welds. Try welding different types of joints and mess with your settings to get good clean welds. Are you learning with solid wire with gas or flux core wire? I know it doesn't sound good for you wallet but if you havn't tried welding with C25 and solid wire, I believe thats what helped me the most getting the hang of it. Its a lot easier to learn when you can see the weld pool without all the smoke and flux from flux core welding.

As for the stinger, I actually planned to build mine with a stinger all along. I have a bent piece of 1.75x.120 DOM tubing in my garage that i decided not to add after i started mocking up everything. I was going to weld it to the face of the bumper right outside of the d-ring shackle mounts and then tie it into a radiator hoop later on. Don't know why but I decided it looked better without it so i left it off.
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Unread 03-07-2010, 05:21 PM   #73
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i got a stupid question, did you make your own mounts aw well to mount the bumper, and when you did, did you reinforce it so it wouldnt break off the first time you go to get towed out or use a winch? Pictures?
Yes I did, If you look at the beginning pics of the build you'll see them. The winch plate is welded solid to the top of the bumper and i have two 1/4" thick tabs welded to the bottom to mount to the frame underneath. So the bumper is actually held on by a total of 8 bolts through the top of the frame and 2 bolts through the bottom of the frame plus is is tied into the steering box skid which adds and additional bolt on the side of the frame with the steering gear box. 11 total 10.9 metric bolts (stronger than grade 8) going through the frame
I'v loaded it several time with a snatch strap hooked to my d-ring shackles and have used the winch several times now and have no fear of it pulling off or failing. In-fact i'd almost bet this design is a lot stronger than any aftermarket bumper out there with a separate winch plate on top.

Here is a pic of how the bumper mounts on top of the frame (it was just tacked at that point) . And below are a few pics i posted earlier of the mounts underneath and how they fit over the frame



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Here is a few pics of the lower mounts and the bottom of the bumper


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that helps a bit, thanks!!
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Unread 03-07-2010, 05:27 PM   #75
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wow that looks awesome, nice fab skillz
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