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post #16 of 80 Old 05-04-2005, 03:11 PM Thread Starter
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Well I just priced out steel. If I get a piece cut from a "drop" its like $90, or if I get a piece cut just for me its going to be 150 + 35 for labor. So, I have to wait till they have a big enough drop to cut me about a 48x24 piece. The other problem is I don't have a MML yet, so this is going to have to wait. Oh, and my Jeep is my DD so I am gonna have to find time to put my Jeep out of commission for a bit. In the mean time I will sit here with DT and wait for some input from fellow TJers. If not, I'll post my results when I get around to it.

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post #17 of 80 Old 05-04-2005, 03:33 PM
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Kern,
I started another thread over at the Pirate BBS on this; and here is the link...some good pics as well.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...67#post3984267

Forgive the bozos and dumbheads who made their heckling posts at the beginning; and look for the worthwhile posts toward the bottom....don't know why the Pirate board draws so many morons; but they get alot of them; and if your post-count on their board isn't in the hundreds; some of them mark you as a 'newbie' and they like to show off their immaturity towards you. Post-lightly over there.

There are some good pics there, though, of other TJs and what they have done.


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post #18 of 80 Old 05-05-2005, 12:05 PM
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Ok you guys have my attention ! I was thinking about putting a 1" or 1 1/2" piece of tubing on each side for a little drop. This will help with the exhaust and shifter linkage. the pictures on the other site were very incouraging. Keep the post coming.

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Looks like the guy in the last posted picture on the Pirate board has an Atlas; and that is why it sticks out and he had to make a pocket for it on the flat-skid...I have read that the Atlas is thicker than the NP231; so you have to either cut-up into the floorboard or some similar creativity; or allow for some drop; either with tubes on the side; or like that guy did in his picture.

However, it seems from several of the TJ guys I have read from or talked to that have the NP231; that it is skinny enough to just go completely flat across the side....only issues is possible the exhaust...and big-whoop for Jeepers...we can just cut the who thing off if we need to; then re-mount it later to fit...right? I ran a CJ& for years without a tailpipe; and no problems...

Anyway, it looks like the only thing you really have to do is come up with either a mount on the skid for the tcase; or do like that one pick shows (which I am leaning toward) and run a cross-member from the rails under the tcase; mount the tcase to it; and then mount that cross-member to the inside of the frame-rails...then it holds the stuff in there...and the actual skid just bolts on under it to the framerails.

I also talked to a welder last night at my church; and he said that you would save quite a bit of money if you went with 1/4 stock instead of 3/8 stock....so unless you live in rock-only areas where there is huge undercarriage bashing on a frequent basis; 1/4 should be fine and much cheaper.


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I might have a piece of 5/16" plate cut out of a drop next week. Has anyone taken measurements of the skid? I took some rough measurments of 43" rear 36-1/2" front and 23" long. This is leaving about 1/4" past the frame on each side.I'm still not sure if I want to go all the way flat or not ? It looks like flat will be very tight under there.

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One other thing to consider on a TJ is clearance for t-case shift linkage.I had to massage the tunnel above linkage & my skid hangs down 1in.Also highly recommend doing away with the body mount linkage.I used Advance Adaptors bracket($30).

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dirtgrip, Do you have a body lift and mm lift?
What do'es everyone think about 5/16" plate, will I need to brace it?

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dirtgrip, Do you have a body lift and mm lift?
What do'es everyone think about 5/16" plate, will I need to brace it?
Yes-running both.

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post #24 of 80 Old 05-19-2005, 11:09 AM
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Skid installed, but not complete. I made my skid with 5/16" plate with 1/2"x2" flat bar on the sides,for a little drop. No bracing at all. I do have a little sag across it. My question is how much sag is ok?

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post #25 of 80 Old 05-19-2005, 02:55 PM
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I would say that no sag is okay if it is the metal bending under the weight of your drive train. You are putting a flat skid on to have more under belly clearance not to be a weak link to your rig. I see that you only have 31's on your jeep so you are probably going to be getting into that skid fairly often. If it is sagging with the weight then a couple of good shots on a rock or so and you will probably taco that skid and f up your tcase or tranny.
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post #26 of 80 Old 05-20-2005, 03:53 PM
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if it's sagging under the weight of the tranny, then you can brace it with some channel or angle running across the skid whereever you have room. maybe 1.5" leg angle across the whole rear under the t-case, and maybe some smaller C channel up front near the tranny mount. weld it in or bolt it to it when the skid is flat on the ground and you should be good to go. 5/16" plate should be thick enough to be effective once you stiffen it up.

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Got any pics ? Oh, and I wouldn't want any sag at all.

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Okay guys the flat skid is installed with no more sagging. 2 pieces of 1" square bar across it solved that problem. I tried to post pics the other day, but could'nt fiqure out how (kind of computer illiterate). Maybe I could e-mail someone pics and they could post them for me. Or teach me how.

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