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Unread 05-23-2013, 04:36 PM   #1
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Hey guys first time using a mig welder, figured a welding stand would be a good first project. I am using a harbart handler 210 mvp ( using the 110v though, still have to change outlet to correct one) and using flux cored wire.35 if you guys could just give me some pointers in making my welds better that would be great the first 4 pictures are on 1/8in angle iron and the others are on 16 gauge square tubing. It seems like the 16 gauge is a little thin for the flux core wire. Any advice I can get would be great!

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Unread 05-23-2013, 04:38 PM   #2
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I see no pics...
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Unread 05-23-2013, 04:38 PM   #3
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Hold on I will post pictures of the welds but it won't let me do it anymore? It is saying that my pictures are to large, is this new
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Unread 05-23-2013, 04:57 PM   #4
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I added the pictures to photo bucket but it messed up the order the 3,4, 7,8 are the angle iron and the 1,2,5,6 are the 16 gauge... Sorry for the mess
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Unread 05-24-2013, 10:43 AM   #5
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Unread 05-24-2013, 01:55 PM   #6
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The pics were a little on the small side so it was kind of difficult to see. I would say some welds looked pretty good, while others looked "fair"? Doesn't look like any of them are going to all apart.

All in all, not bad for first time flux core.. with 110. I'd get the 220 outlet installed as soon as possible, and switch to Gas with Solid Wire to get a cleaner weld.
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The pics were a little on the small side so it was kind of difficult to see. I would say some welds looked pretty good, while others looked "fair"? Doesn't look like any of them are going to all apart.

All in all, not bad for first time flux core.. with 110. I'd get the 220 outlet installed as soon as possible, and switch to Gas with Solid Wire to get a cleaner weld.
Thanks and im trying too, about gas is there any big difference between 100 % C02 vs c25? And do you work the weld puddle any different with solid wire?
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Unread 05-24-2013, 04:24 PM   #8
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Practice practice and oh yeah more practice. And read all the threads here there are some pros around that give some great advice and knowledge
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Unread 05-24-2013, 08:44 PM   #9
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I'm by far not an expert, but one of the first things I learned is that heat is very important. Look for flatness in a weld and not one that is "sitting on top" of the material. My first project was a cart. I used a couple of bed frames from a resale shop, $10. If I screwed it up< it's cheap. Good luck. NEVER weld on galvanized steel.
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Unread 05-24-2013, 09:44 PM   #10
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lookin good for a newbie! looks like you just need to slow your travel speed a little bit, hold your hand very steady a just slowly DRAG your puddle with NO manipulation. manipulation with flux core can easily cause slag pockets (inclusions), its even easier to get slag inclusions when manipulating with 110v, simply because you dont always have enough heat to get the slag to "float" to the top of the puddle while its in molten form. Manipulation is usually not necessary with ANY electric welding process, usually only "needed" when welding out of position (vertical or overhead), and to fill in joints with poor fit-up.

get your 220V going, and try welding with some solid wire and gas (25% CO2 75% AR works best for most applications). when welding with solid wire, just push your weld, no manipulation "needed"... however, most people like to do small circles, Z weave, or a C pattern.
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Unread 05-24-2013, 10:23 PM   #11
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lookin good for a newbie! looks like you just need to slow your travel speed a little bit, hold your hand very steady a just slowly DRAG your puddle with NO manipulation. manipulation with flux core can easily cause slag pockets (inclusions), its even easier to get slag inclusions when manipulating with 110v, simply because you dont always have enough heat to get the slag to "float" to the top of the puddle while its in molten form. Manipulation is usually not necessary with ANY electric welding process, usually only "needed" when welding out of position (vertical or overhead), and to fill in joints with poor fit-up.

get your 220V going, and try welding with some solid wire and gas (25% CO2 75% AR works best for most applications). when welding with solid wire, just push your weld, no manipulation "needed"... however, most people like to do small circles, Z weave, or a C pattern.
Okay thanks a lot, I will definitely try Just to pull the puddle tomorrow, would that work even on the T Joints? I feel like those welds are not coming out good at all
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Unread 05-24-2013, 11:16 PM   #12
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If theres slag... drag, general rule of thumb for most joint types. It also looks like your wire speed might be a bit too high, trying turning it down little by little until you find that "sweet spot", you shouldnt hear much popping- just a nice smooth hiss, keep your wire stickout at 3/8" - 1/2" and you shouldnt get much spatter.
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Unread 05-25-2013, 08:17 AM   #13
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If theres slag... drag, general rule of thumb for most joint types. It also looks like your wire speed might be a bit too high, trying turning it down little by little until you find that "sweet spot", you shouldnt hear much popping- just a nice smooth hiss, keep your wire stickout at 3/8" - 1/2" and you shouldnt get much spatter.
And when you say drag you mean with the tilt of the gun like this________/
Nice picture right haha
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