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Unread 03-03-2011, 11:41 AM   #16
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I love this idea! I though the illustration was clear enough on where you want to cut. It's just the doors with just a little bit of the front and back to round it out.

Timatoe has a good point, though. What are you going to be doing about the tires?

They'd either have to be outside of the lines of the tub, but low enough to not interfere with opening and closing the doors, or you'll have to fab in the wheel wells from the cut-out section into the main body of the trailer.

Any thoughts on which yet? Or another solution altogether?

Edit: Man....you hesitate on posting and you end up late to the party, ha ha.

I do love this idea, though!

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Unread 03-03-2011, 11:46 AM   #17
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That's awesome, but why go to all that work just for a few inches? Also, I would leave the rearwards bit in there in order to help balance the load over the axle.

I'm planning to leave mine the full length from the tailgate to the firewall, and when I did the math the balance is pretty good assuming an even weight distribution within the tub, a spare tire on the rear, and the stock tank still full of gas.

That gives you a spare tire, extra gas, and tons of room for camping stuff. Mind you, I do have a 350 in mine so I'm less concerned about weight.

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Unread 03-03-2011, 11:56 AM   #18
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It would be a little more than a few inches. Maybe around a foot. Also I just thought of something. Would making a pizza slice cut in the front(think tranny tunnel) and dove tailing the front. So that was you can have a shorter tounge. Would that help out with weight distrabution? Also great idea about the gas tank.
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Unread 03-03-2011, 12:52 PM   #19
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The axle would be in the fender well. Also I would want to do my own frame, so that way I can try to shave a little weight out of it. Also thanks for the link.
OK gotcha. Like I said before, the doors "on" the trailer had me confused. I immediately thought you wanted to keep the door openings as part of the trailer to have a place to mount the doors once you got to the trail.

Good luck and take plenty of pics.
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Unread 03-03-2011, 01:06 PM   #20
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OK gotcha. Like I said before, the doors "on" the trailer had me confused. I immediately thought you wanted to keep the door openings as part of the trailer to have a place to mount the doors once you got to the trail.

Good luck and take plenty of pics.
I do still want the door openings. So I can put my doors on the trailer.
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Unread 03-03-2011, 01:37 PM   #21
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Try a little reading here: http://www.synthx.com/articles/trailer-design.html

You don't necessarily want a shorter tongue. "Ideal" ratio is supposedly that the trailer axle should be the same distance from the tow vehicles rear axle as the front axle. IE, tow vehicle wheelbase = distance from tow vehicle rear axle to trailer axle.

A YJ/TJ is what? 65" wide? So a 33" tongue gives you 90 degree turning capability. That's not all that long to worry about.

With a 93" wheelbase on the TJ, that gives you about 5 feet of trailer in front of the axle after you account for the tongue. That's pretty much the length of the tub from the rear axle to the firewall isn't it?

Dovetailing the front I think would only reduce the amount of stuff you can carry. The only real change in weight distribution would be due to less stuff up front. If you don't dovetail the front, and don't cut those sides to shorten it, then you can put a top on it too. I don't know what kind of top you have, but if you have a hardtop its perfect. You drive to the trails in comfort, then you pop the top and doors on the trailer, keep all your stuff clean and dry, and you can lock it up while you're away from the campsite.

Just some food for thought,
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Unread 03-03-2011, 09:08 PM   #22
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OK, I finally got it, I was looking at this as a one or the other thing, not thinking you were going to be using essentially the entire tub. That will definitely be unique, I don't know that I've ever seen one like that.

Sorry for mucking up your thread with not understanding.
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Unread 03-04-2011, 06:00 AM   #23
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If you don't dovetail the front, and don't cut those sides to shorten it, then you can put a top on it too. I don't know what kind of top you have, but if you have a hardtop its perfect. You drive to the trails in comfort, then you pop the top and doors on the trailer, keep all your stuff clean and dry, and you can lock it up while you're away from the campsite.
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Holy crap I love this idea! You be ending up almost pulling a full length Wrangler behind you, though.

What about a half-cab, though? That would still serve the same function as the top with the doors, but allow you to reduce the trailer length....

Love where this is headed!
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Unread 03-14-2011, 12:27 AM   #24
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Ok Mr. no name with the read jeep and the yellow lines . Tell me how did you do that. I have been wanting to learn how to do that. Would you mind shareing that with me?



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