post #1 of Old 03-02-2011, 11:22 AM Thread Starter
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Ok I am going to start out by saying, this project will be around a year out. But I am trying to get everything I want down on paper now. So what do you guys think about using a Jeep tub? I know it has been done before. But the reason I want to use one, is so when I am on the trail, I can take my doors off and put them on the trailer. I would be doing alot of sheet metal work in side and out for this project. But I think it would be pretty cool. I also would be building my own frame. Also another question is, does anyone know the ruff guess of a tubs weight? Because if it is way to much then I will just scrape the idea. Thanks in advance for any comments or direction pointing. Also the picture is not my tub. Its just one off of google for reference.

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post #2 of Old 03-02-2011, 11:29 AM
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why don't you just remove the back seat and store the door behind you?
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I don't think it's a bad idea. It can't way that much more than a truck bed trailer. I really don't think it's a bad platform to start with as long as you're okay with it being a very long and committed project. I say go for it.

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why don't you just remove the back seat and store the door behind you?
I have full steel doors. And I have two kids that like riding in my Jeep more than I do. Also I have been wanting a trailer for camping reason. I started thinking about this last night. So I thought I would throw this out there to get feed back.
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I don't think it's a bad idea. It can't way that much more than a truck bed trailer. I really don't think it's a bad platform to start with as long as you're okay with it being a very long and committed project. I say go for it.
I like projects. This will be my biggest one that I will have done. But I think once I get started I will finish it. Because the way I am, if I have to spend money on something. I am going to finish it or else I wasted money.
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Another though, for towing reason. Would the axle/tires be to far back? Because I know most of the time trailers try to have centered axles.
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Well the further back your axle is, the more weight you potentially put on the tongue. What is the max tongue weight on a TJ?

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IIRC, the tub weight minus roll bars is in the neighborhood of 300 lb.
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that weight sounds about right. 2 guy really groaning to move mine around completely stripped.

As for axle location, I closed my tub out just ahead of the back door brace (trailer is 5') and I'm glad I left the axle in the stock location. I wheel with my family too and it's nice to be able to sit on the tailgate without lifting the tongue in the air when it's unhooked. I used a cj tailgate.
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Could youngest some pics of your trailer?
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The part about putting the doors "on" the trailer has me a bit confused, are you going to be using from the firewall back to just past the door opening and then moving the tailgate area up to that point?? If so you're looking at basically a flat bottom trailer and you can position the axle wherever you need to. My concern would be where the tires will sit if that's the case, because if they're under the tub it will sit very high and if they're outside of the tub they will likely interfere with the door area.

If you're going to be using the rear portion of the tub, the "bed" if you will, then I'd just use the frame that's there and use a standard trailer axle with leaves at the right width and weld the hangers to the stock frame basically centering the wheels in the stock opening.

BTW, when I re-did my little trailer I found ABC Trailer Parts to have the best prices, and very good customer service.

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heres my thread on mine
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f104/...ailer-1164102/

Check out the hitch its kinda the pride of the build. Heed my warning these are addictive
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I think it's a great idea. I'm planning a similar build myself this spring. Your lines do have me a bit confused though too. Can you clarify which bits your cutting and moving where?

General rule for axle location is the weight distribution should be ~60/40 in front of/behind the axle. That gives you roughly the right amount of tongue weight, as well as a fairly stable trailer for towing confidence. It also makes it easy to maneuver and back up.

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I think it's a great idea. I'm planning a similar build myself this spring. Your lines do have me a bit confused though too. Can you clarify which bits your cutting and moving where?

General rule for axle location is the weight distribution should be ~60/40 in front of/behind the axle. That gives you roughly the right amount of tongue weight, as well as a fairly stable trailer for towing confidence. It also makes it easy to maneuver and back up.

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Sorry for the confusion. I will be taking out the area behind the fender well and sliding the tailgate up some. And taking the area between the fender well and the door out. And cutting out most of the firewall. Just so shorten it up a bit. Right now I am just trying to get ideas.
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The part about putting the doors "on" the trailer has me a bit confused, are you going to be using from the firewall back to just past the door opening and then moving the tailgate area up to that point?? If so you're looking at basically a flat bottom trailer and you can position the axle wherever you need to. My concern would be where the tires will sit if that's the case, because if they're under the tub it will sit very high and if they're outside of the tub they will likely interfere with the door area.

If you're going to be using the rear portion of the tub, the "bed" if you will, then I'd just use the frame that's there and use a standard trailer axle with leaves at the right width and weld the hangers to the stock frame basically centering the wheels in the stock opening.

BTW, when I re-did my little trailer I found ABC Trailer Parts to have the best prices, and very good customer service.

The axle would be in the fender well. Also I would want to do my own frame, so that way I can try to shave a little weight out of it. Also thanks for the link.
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