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Buying a welder, is this a decent deal? Millermatic Vintage

I've got a deal for a Millermatic Vintage from work for $500 CDN. The thing is pretty old (8 years or so), but it's in great working order.

It's a big rolling floor style. 60% duty cycle, 28 volts, 200 amps.

This is the owner's manual for it online: http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o1311aa_mil.pdf

Is this a decent deal? It has some new parts put into it, and I can get new drive rolls and a liner from work for cheap or free. I would be using it for welding parts for the jeep, or friends jeeps. 1/4" thick is probably the thickest with the occasional thicker stuff for clevis tabs, etc. I know it's plenty powerful for what I need, and 60% duty cycle is *easily* enough for a garage welder.


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Id say thats a pretty fair deal. I payed $500 for my miller 175 just for comparison.
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thats a good deal (of course I'm thinking in US $, which ain't worth crap at the moment), but keep in mind you'll never need 60% duty cycle. I'd be surprised if you'd need 30% to weld an entire roll cage. You're moving around, repositioning and grinding so much more than you're welding, you just won't need 180 amps for more than a few seconds, let alone minutes.
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Good deal indeed. You can burn a 3/32 all day long with that

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Pretty much any welder that says Miller on it is going to be very good.

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Good deal indeed. You can burn a 3/32 all day long with that
I could burn 3/8" all day long with it too. :P

As long as I stick to the 60% duty cycle.

My main use will be 3/16" and 1/4".

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Pretty much any welder that says Miller on it is going to be very good.
As I was loading it up in the jeep yesterday my foreman came up to me and asked me how much I paid for it. I told him $500.

He said "Wow, that's a screaming deal, the whip alone is worth $420."

For comparison, a new miller with the same features would run about $4500. Now I just gotta change the plug in the garage, get some gas and wire and I'm ready to rock! I got some free drive rolls and a liner for the whip too.

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I actually like the welder you are buying. I had one stolen out of my shop years ago. I would say the price sounds good to me.

On another note... the bumper you had posted over on Pirate looks nice,


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Great welder, and a good deal. Remember you'll need a 50 Amp circuit, and check that the jumper link is on 230 Volt before plugging it in at home.

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I actually like the welder you are buying. I had one stolen out of my shop years ago. I would say the price sounds good to me.

On another note... the bumper you had posted over on Pirate looks nice,


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Great welder, and a good deal. Remember you'll need a 50 Amp circuit, and check that the jumper link is on 230 Volt before plugging it in at home.

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Good info, thanks a lot. I would have just changed the plug, and turned it on. :P

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Thats a great price.....

And you will be happy with that welder for anything less than production.....

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Millers are EXCELLENT welders.

Just as a by the way, you're going to need a 220V outlet to plug it into. Either a dryer or range outlet, depending on what's on the end of your cord. 3 prong is dryer, 4 prong is range. If your garage isn't already wired for 220V, you're going to need to get friendly with an electrician.

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Coming from you, huge compliment, thanks! The bumper is in a thread here on JF too.

No worries. I think you will be fine with the welder for light production work. Basically the Vintage was a non digital version of the newer ones. A lot of the old school people liked the welder so they kept it around and called it the Vintage. When they first came out with the digi version I hated it because I was so used to the Vintage style machine. I have burned A LOT of wire on a vintage machine. When you get it go ahead and service the machine. Replace the liner, tip, and so on.

Let us know if there is something you need.


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Millers are EXCELLENT welders.

Just as a by the way, you're going to need a 220V outlet to plug it into. Either a dryer or range outlet, depending on what's on the end of your cord. 3 prong is dryer, 4 prong is range. If your garage isn't already wired for 220V, you're going to need to get friendly with an electrician.
It likely needs a NEMA 6-50R receptical.

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