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post #1 of 14 Old 09-22-2010, 02:31 PM Thread Starter
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buying a welder

I have read a bit on this, and instead of taking my jeep to somebody to pay them and weld i want to do it myself. But things like stiffeners, sliders, minor things around the jeep, up to 1/4th possibly.
Now i know the HF welders are not worth my time, but yet i dont have enough $$ to throw down on a 400-500$ hobart or lincoln really..


Is there a happy middle option? that runs on 120v, decent duty cycle, mig

would use be my only option here?


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post #2 of 14 Old 09-22-2010, 02:56 PM
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Used will be your best bet here. You will regret buying a HF welder in the long run.


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I would start looking on craigslist.

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Used will be your best bet here. You will regret buying a HF welder in the long run.
As much as i just want to buy even the $99 120v 90amp to just install my stiffeners/ sliders/ lca skids, and a steering brace


It seems it would work for that, taking a decent amount of time on cooldown, but it might be better adding the 100 to the funds for a 2-400$ one i guess..

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As much as i just want to buy even the $99 120v 90amp to just install my stiffeners/ sliders/ lca skids, and a steering brace


It seems it would work for that, taking a decent amount of time on cooldown, but it might be better adding the 100 to the funds for a 2-400$ one i guess..
I'm planning on snagging a 110 HF welder to start learning and play with before I move up the big leagues. Remember, you can also find 20% off coupons for a single item all over the internet for HF.

$79 for a cheap welder to start learning is probably the best deal in town. Atleast for me that's maybe 2 months worth of saving.

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i would buy a 220 volt lincoln buzz box, can find usedones all time for 100-200
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i would buy a 220 volt lincoln buzz box, can find usedones all time for 100-200
I do not have a 220 volt outlet. 110 is the only way for me. there are plenty powerful machines that run off 120v. just cost near 400-500 lol.


part of me wants to just get the 99$ one, im sure once the settings are dialed in i will be able to weld on my stiffeners/sliders. But if they will hold is the question...


or i can have some local 4x4 guys help me out.. hmmm

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so you dont have a dryer outlet? Ive never heard of a house not having 220, the line that comes in off the power line from the transformer to the house is always 220-240v. Usually always 1 hookup in the house, the AC uses 220 as well.

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wiring a 220 plug is easy, and chance are you do have one already.I just don't understand why people spend so much money to just limit what they can do

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no expert welder by any means, but have burned quite a few things..... here's my opinion..... i have tried several welders, including a HF welder, a campbell hausfeld, a lincoln, and a hobart (110 & 220) with the cheaper welders it was hard to get a good constant line feed..... which makes learning how to weld impossible..... everything with the higher end welders is better quality therefore more dependable/easier to learn on. i couldn't do crap with the Hf or CH..... but with the lincoln and especially the hobart.... i'm actually not half bad!!! if i was you, i'd save until i could afford the welder i wanted. not buy a cheapo to learn. learn on what you're gonna use!!

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the biggest issue for me when I had my first cheap 110v welder was the duty cycle.
when welding 1/8" or thicker material,the welder would heat up and then shut down(thermally protected)
and I would have to wait for it to cool down before continuing.
even welding sheet metal,once the welder got hot,it would shut down and I would have to wait.


any money spent on a cheap welder is that much less to spend on a good one.
an extension cord to the stove or dryer plug should take care of your 220v issue.
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post #12 of 14 Old 09-24-2010, 10:55 AM
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X100. DO NOT BUY the HF welder! As mentioned, search craigslist. I have seen many nice welders for cheap on there. A Lincoln, Miller, or Hobart 30 amp is good as long as you are not making safety related items, such as spring perches or receiver bumpers.

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If you buy a good quality used welder it will most likely last you a lifetime. My first welder was Lincoln stick welder, still have it after 15 years and it was used. I can weld just as nice a bead as many folks can with a mig and it's got plenty of amps to burn anything in that you'll ever need to weld. My point is that you could get by with a stick welder and get one cheaper than you might a mig. Some say a stick is harder to weld with, but I think if you're going to weld you might as well have the skill to use whatever you have, even a stick.
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I do not have a 220 volt outlet. 110 is the only way for me. there are plenty powerful machines that run off 120v. just
You won't find any "plenty powerful machines" that run on 110v. 140 amps is it for a 110v welder and you'll quickly learn how limiting it will be if you start trying to weld big pieces of even 3/16". That is why I sold my 110v Hobart welder and bought a Miller 180 amp 220v welder.

I didn't have 220v in my garage either, I moved my laundry room's 220v dryer outlet into my garage which works fine. All I had to do was install the right kind of outlet (NEMA 50-R) to match the welder's 220v type of plug.

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