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Unread 07-16-2013, 05:52 PM   #1
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Any certified welders on here?

I was just wondering how many others are certified and what your cert is for. Just graduated highschool and am certified in 3g on 3/8ths plate, 3g in unlimited thickness, and 4g on 3/8ths plate all smaw. I took the nys dot weld test but got arc blow and it was a no go.

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Unread 07-17-2013, 10:14 AM   #2
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6G 6" pipe OK state cert. I do more structural work than pipe, but this covers me for both. Most pipe jobs will have you test, no matter what cert. you have.
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Unread 07-17-2013, 05:59 PM   #3
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Structural work is what i want to get into. Thats awesome that your certified in 6g pipe. Ive only ever messed with pipe a few times but it wasnt 6g and i sucked at it
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smaw and fcaw 3g and 4g 1/8" to unlimited thickness all position, aws north american. something like that. I haven't really welded in a while though. I always wanted to try a pipe test.
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SMAW 3G and 4G test on 3/8's plate, certified up to 3/4", all positions. GMAW 3G and 4G tests on 1" plate, certified unlimited thickness all positions. Certified with the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet Division of Materials. I got certified while in school for welding, however I let my certifications expire as I don't use them and I don't weld professionally much.
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I actualy can't even remember how many weld cert's i've had since 1979..pretty much everything except aluminum,i only had that once when a transformer blew at Plant Hatch Nuke in Baxley Ga and we had some aluminum structure to replace.

Most of the Nuclear plants i work on Outages all over the USA will require a 2" Heavy Wall 6G with a backing ring for SMAW as a starter,they figure it covers every position at once,if you pass that,then on to other weld processes and coupons.
Anymore i just take the 6G open butt,TIG root and hot pass,then fill out with 309L stick,this gives you TIG,Stick and Stainless all in one shot.

If you are getting into structural,your best bet is to also learn Fluxcore and Dual Sheild,it's becoming the standard for all new infrastructural all over the USA..Especialy the new NR233.But keep mastering stick,because of it's portability and proven strength it will never be a loss art like i keep hearing some people say..lol.

I've only had to certify on GMAW twice in over 30 years of structural work and that was because i was at the time working a shop that builds Vessels for chemical plants,you'll rarely ever see that out in the field because it's uselessness in the wind,don;t worry much about that process for the fact if you can run a good stick and/or fluxcore you can smoke a GMAW's butt without thinkin about it at any given time.

These are just a few of the papers and records i have on hand,i throw them away most of the time because unless you are back on that site within 6 months welding,they are usless and you'll have to do it all over again.

One thing i WILL stress,,take it from someone who knows first hand..ALWAYS wear your PPE,these new Z87.1 safety glasses and lens covers WILL save your eyes in the future,i am going through a bunch eye trouble right now because years ago it was a choice,not a requirement...
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I actualy can't even remember how many weld cert's i've had since 1979..pretty much everything except aluminum,i only had that once when a transformer blew at Plant Hatch Nuke in Baxley Ga and we had some aluminum structure to replace.

Most of the Nuclear plants i work on Outages all over the USA will require a 2" Heavy Wall 6G with a backing ring for SMAW as a starter,they figure it covers every position at once,if you pass that,then on to other weld processes and coupons.
Anymore i just take the 6G open butt,TIG root and hot pass,then fill out with 309L stick,this gives you TIG,Stick and Stainless all in one shot.

If you are getting into structural,your best bet is to also learn Fluxcore and Dual Sheild,it's becoming the standard for all new infrastructural all over the USA..Especialy the new NR233.But keep mastering stick,because of it's portability and proven strength it will never be a loss art like i keep hearing some people say..lol.

I've only had to certify on GMAW twice in over 30 years of structural work and that was because i was at the time working a shop that builds Vessels for chemical plants,you'll rarely ever see that out in the field because it's uselessness in the wind,don;t worry much about that process for the fact if you can run a good stick and/or fluxcore you can smoke a GMAW's butt without thinkin about it at any given time.

These are just a few of the papers and records i have on hand,i throw them away most of the time because unless you are back on that site within 6 months welding,they are usless and you'll have to do it all over again.

One thing i WILL stress,,take it from someone who knows first hand..ALWAYS wear your PPE,these new Z87.1 safety glasses and lens covers WILL save your eyes in the future,i am going through a bunch eye trouble right now because years ago it was a choice,not a requirement...



Thanks for all the info man. Ive actually never tried fluxcore or dual shield. I messed around with mig in the shop but never tried to certify in it because my teacher was pretty oldschool and basically only used stick on his jobs. Or atleast from what hes told me. Like you he worked on nuclear plants at one point in his life. I was really under the impression that stick was the most commonly used and that would be all i would need until it was to late.

And as for the saftey glasses, my first year welding i had some hot slag fly into my eye and that was enough to convince me to always wear my saftey gear. Plus it was really stressed in my boces shop in my last 2 years of highschool.
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that's an interesting test, with the open tig root and 309 stick fill. never heard of that one. is an x ray?
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that's an interesting test, with the open tig root and 309 stick fill. never heard of that one. is an x ray?
Cut & bend on some sites,xray on others.All depends on the site requirements..other words its up to the weld tech on site.

It's actualy kind if weird on different tests at different places..

For example,down at Port St Lucie Fla nuke plant last year they were testing 100's of weldors hiring in for a steam generator change out and was having about a 70% failure rate,so i was a lil nervous going all the way down there and if i failed the test,i was not paid a dime for the travel.
I was told i would be taking a 6G on a 6" pipe with a backing ring because of alot of the pipe and tube structure,but once i got there,he decided to give me a 1" beveled plate with a backing plate all positions..i finished that and waited 2 days for the Xray and passed,went in to start work,got called back out to the test shop for a 6G 6" stainless...lol
I've learned in the past 30+ years..NEVER expect anything untill you are there,always expect the worst though and be prepared.
I went down to Pensacola a few years ago on a boiler job at plant Crist..1" plate beveled..i started on the vert and about 1/2 way through the micro manager came and looked and said get on the bus down to the site..your hired..lol
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Thanks for all the info man. Ive actually never tried fluxcore or dual shield. I messed around with mig in the shop but never tried to certify in it because my teacher was pretty oldschool and basically only used stick on his jobs. Or atleast from what hes told me. Like you he worked on nuclear plants at one point in his life. I was really under the impression that stick was the most commonly used and that would be all i would need until it was to late.

And as for the saftey glasses, my first year welding i had some hot slag fly into my eye and that was enough to convince me to always wear my saftey gear. Plus it was really stressed in my boces shop in my last 2 years of highschool.
Stick is the main process in the feild,but fluxcore is gettin more and more common because of the speed and much better filler wires now a days.
Now on repairs and mods in places like paper plants,coal burner power plants,car plants..pretty anywhere where there is and outage or shutdown,stick still dominates because the crazy spots you'll be in,but again,,wirefeed is slowly but surely moving in there too where ever it's suitable...an LN-25 Lincoln is getting lighter and lighter and more portable by the year( i love runnin an LN-25.we call them "squirt guns"..just pull the trigger n squirt that baby in there)...lol

If you get into a structural fabrication shop you'll be running plenty of wire feed,fluxcore,dual shield and hard wire,stick is too slow for the high production to get the steel fitted and welded and out to the site on time...there's nothing like a bunch of P'd off ironworkers and engineers waiting on truck load of steel..............the ole days of running a pile of JetRod in the shops are pretty much gone with all these new wire feed machines.

The more processes you learn and get the hang of,the more versatile you are and always have a back up in other areas when needed...generaly a company will hang onto someone with more process capabilities than a guy with just one..
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One more thing..the safety glasses thing is mainly to keep from all the years of exposure to IR and UV rays,we didn't have the high quality glasses and lens we do now a days..never be that tough guy and think your ok...i'm payin dearly for it right now..............
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3G-4G SMAW, GMAW, FCAW, and FCAW-G all up to 3/4", unlimited thickness FCAW, and 1G to 5G pipe- smaw.

depending on what kind of work you get into, certs dont mean too much... they just get you in the door for a weld test but they are good to have, nonetheless. that being said, the experience gained from countless hours welding in a booth, is nothing like the experience gained working in a fab shop for a few months.
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A friend of mine had to get stud and rebar certified for a small job.

Kind of an odd one.
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A friend of mine had to get stud and rebar certified for a small job.

Kind of an odd one.
We have that as part of our apprenticeship training now too because of how much it's used now a days in cast walls and floors and foundations.

There is now even a deck welding certification to qualify you to weld floor decking down on structural building floors for a pour..and all only 7018 or better..makes it a PITA to plug weld through decking with 7018 because you have to flick off the flux on the end of the rod everytime,unless you want to look like woodpecker pecking at the decking everytime..lol.

The old days of carrying around a pouch full of 5P rod and "sparkling" away is over for the decking and bridging
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