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Unread 09-19-2002, 10:45 PM   #16
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stock tjs .. or 4.0s that are multi port ..... have the same pressure...

so find yourself a 4.0 gas tank or the pump...


also holley makes some inline pumps that would work ... ie shucks auto supply carries them

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Unread 11-29-2002, 03:44 PM   #17
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Drtjmpr, how's it holding up? Also, due to pain in the butt CA smog laws, does anybody know if Ford put the 5.0 into anything after 1997?
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Unread 11-30-2002, 01:36 AM   #18
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explorers, broncos, and I think f 150s but they do have alot of 351s now.. which is just as good..


jeep and motor are going good... and strong.

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Unread 12-24-2002, 09:47 PM   #19
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my rear drive line lenth changed on my convertion. the drive line accually Is longer now with the convertion. the front drive line is just a little shorter then it used to be. and with the np 205 tranfer case it already has the slip yoke eliminator on it. so i was able to put on a better drive line.
I'm still planning out my parts selection.........so I got a couple more questions yous could help me with (please)

OK, so you started by putting the motor where it needed to be first, right? Any advise there?? Then, did you reuse the OEM skid and/or fab a Tranny/TC mount? And what did you do about your TC shifter? I'd like to be able to reuse the factory one. And did the T18 shifter end up in a good spot for inside the Jeep?

I think the T18/205 setup seems like what I'd like to do. Really appreciate the input so far. Is there anything to look or look out for when finding my trans/TC??

Thanks again.
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Unread 12-25-2002, 01:05 AM   #20
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i had to chop the floor board in my jeep when i did the swap. the t18 shifter was farther forward in the jeep then the stock ones was for me. i had to get a torch and heat the stick shift on the tranny and bent it to fit the way i wanted it to. so I had to make a new floor cover for the tranny and t case i have some pics of it if i can find them.
here is a pic of the floor pan
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Unread 12-25-2002, 09:40 AM   #21
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Woah, the tranny shifter sure did end up farther forward! Looks like you probly have a real nice rear DS angle. I guess I'll just have to see if the OEM TC shifter is worth trying to reuse.

Is the T18 a cable or hyd. clutch? And did this trans come behind 302s, so I won't have any trouble finding cluth parts?
Do all T18s have that 1st creeper-gear?? That'd be nice to have.
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Unread 12-25-2002, 10:05 AM   #22
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all t-18s have a grannny first some have a lower first gear then others though. One has a 629 first but most have a 527 first. I belive. or it should be something close to that. anyways. The drive line angle in the back is alot better. I really like it. longer drive line is nice to have. But i did mount the motor as far forward in the jeep as i could. So far that im no longer running the fan on the motor. Im running a eletrical fan on it. I mounted it on the frount of the radiator. inbetween the radiator and the grill. It works great. the t-18 where mechanical or cable clutch systems. they dont have hydro cluthches. they do make a convertion for them to hydro cluthc though but it was more then i wanted to spand for it. you can check it out though here http://www.zandm.com/

go to the catolog section. I just made myself a cable clutch system in my jeep. took out the hydro clutch system. it was really pretty easy. just figuring out how to make the clutch arm all work was pretty difficult but it works great i have had no problems with it and i have had it in my jeep for a year now. i have some pics of the set up. I got a bellhousing out of a 82 mustang it has a cable clutch system. I would say a newer one would be better though. Like a 85-87 would be good. THey have a larger clutch housing. but still have the calbe system. I used the cable off the mustang too. once i took off the hydro clutch i routed the cable through the firewall where they hydro cluch was. and to my the clutch arm the i made here are some pics. this is the clutch arm i made
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this is the cable going though the firewallcable and i thought i would add my motor pic here you go

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Unread 12-25-2002, 10:18 AM   #23
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That's some nice work!

It's gotta be nice having that SBF torque!!

Cool, I've got a lot of mustang parts......think I have an old clutch cable too. I'd rather have a cable clutch anyways.

So did you really need to mount the motor so far forward? Or you were probly just trying to get the best possible DS angle, eh.

That's great man. You're inspiring me to get moving on it!
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Unread 12-25-2002, 10:43 AM   #24
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no i didn't have to mount it that far forward. But im glad that i did. the drive line angles are so much better. and the eletric fan keeps it reallly cool. most of the time i don't even run the fan. the bigger radiator i put in works really well too. I got a radiator out of a 76 mustang with a 6 cylinder. motor. it almost bolted right up. I had to make a few changes to it though. drill a few new holes to mount it in there. but its a 3 core radiator instead of the jeep 2 core. with that i hardly even use the fan at all. and now in the winter I don;t even turn it on. the heater itself keeps it cool enough. its great.
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Unread 12-25-2002, 12:40 PM   #25
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Well I mounted my 5.0 in the same spot as the old 4.0.. so i didn't have to move the tranny or anything.



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Unread 12-25-2002, 04:37 PM   #26
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Since my current drivetrain is of the 2.5L variety, I'll have to change over to a new trans/TC setup and probly front and rear-ends a little later hopfully. But then I might get a little rough with er. V8wrangler, did you do anything special for the TC skid?

The other fun area I'm thinking of is the wiring. I bought a computer & harness out of a 93 Stang so I can be fuel injected. And I remember you (Drtjmpr) said you didn't have too much of a hard time wiring yours, but would you recommend doing it that way or gettin a Painless kit to connect MAF wiring right into the Jeep's wiring?

Also, my distributer is from my old 87 Marquis.....do yous know if it'll work with my 93 computer? It looks like the harness plug on the dist. is the same as on my Stang, so I'm thinking it would.
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Unread 12-25-2002, 06:46 PM   #27
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Well if you have the 535 bucks ... then go painless.....

Other than that .... a few wiring diagrams.. etc... and your set.. any questions just ask me.... I will see if i can't dig something up for you..

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Unread 12-25-2002, 06:55 PM   #28
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I think the most interesting part of the convertion was the tc skid plate. I never understood why the holes on the skid didn't match up to the tranny and t case of the jeep but the amasing thing was that the t-18 and np 205 holes for draining oil matched up perfectly. I thought it was kinda weird that the stock jeep tranny didn;t line up with those but the t-18 np205 did. . I just left the skid right where it was. For the tranny mount to the skid i just welded in a little i think it was 4' square tubeing and drilled holes in it on the top of the skid for the mount. I think it was 4' it might have been higher. Really simple.
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Unread 12-25-2002, 08:05 PM   #29
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the amasing thing was that the t-18 and np 205 holes for draining oil matched up perfectly
......lol, nice

sounds like she was meant to have that Ford drivetrain!

I know you (drtjmpr) had or still have a D35 in there.....what about you V8'?? How did yours hold up?

V8wrangler, do you still have your set of 33's for sale?? If so, send me a PM.
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Unread 01-24-2003, 05:35 PM   #30
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"came out pretty good" is right! That's cheaper than I thought possible that's cool.
Yet, even more inspiration. Thank you!

In your spreadsheet, is the "drivetrain" for $200 trans and t-case?? Or was there an adapter in there I missed?
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