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post #211 of 361 Old 01-11-2013, 07:38 AM
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Alright. I need to get everything and play around with it. I'm more of a visual learner. Do you think this is a good plan so far? I'm open to suggestions. I know I definitely want the 4 link rear.


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post #212 of 361 Old 01-11-2013, 08:00 AM
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Found this yesterday

http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techart...2/viewall.html

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Eh, that link is OK but you still won't catch anyone that has a good understanding of what's going on doing any of that. Once you understand 'why' you won't need to read anything or open the link calc....there are enough links in this thread already for you to get to that point.

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post #214 of 361 Old 01-11-2013, 08:44 AM
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Yeah, still working my way though it. I had found that link before I found this thread.

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post #215 of 361 Old 01-11-2013, 09:04 AM
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I would say to get an 8.8 just for the peace of mind.

Since you want a 4 link, don't buy an axle swap kit. All you will need will be a truss, spring pads, shock mounts or tabs, UCA tabs for on top of the truss, and 10* LCA brackets. You can piece together a kit for cheaper than a swap kit. Put your 8.8 in at the same time you do your rear suspension.
http://artecindustries.com/TJ-88-Swa...uss_p_233.html is this what you were referring to?

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post #216 of 361 Old 01-11-2013, 09:32 AM
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The Artec kit is nice, no question. But you can piece together a kit for cheaper yourself. Check out RuffStuff.com. They sell everything you could need. Their trusses are a bit tall, especially if you want to stay low.

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The Artec kit is nice, no question. But you can piece together a kit for cheaper yourself. Check out RuffStuff.com. They sell everything you could need. Their trusses are a bit tall, especially if you want to stay low.
Artecs are a bit tall?

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No, Ruffstuff......just compare them.

Personally, I really like small, simple trusses that tie into the diff cover.



And there was a pretty good truss discussion back on page 3: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f369/...57/index3.html

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Thanks guys. This is all still new to me. After work i will be sure to read this whole thing

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i think ive finally designed something that will fit under my jeep. whats your thoughts?
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A new picture I thought was pretty cool


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No, Ruffstuff......just compare them.

Personally, I really like small, simple trusses that tie into the diff cover.



And there was a pretty good truss discussion back on page 3: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f369/...57/index3.html
slightly off topic

the problem with those is they don't really do much to stiffen the axle at all.

really they aren't much more than a link bridge.

if you are going to build a truss, run it out as far as you can get it. that's one thing that is awesome about the artec ones. they get you plenty of strength out that far without adding too much weight.
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slightly off topic

the problem with those is they don't really do much to stiffen the axle at all.

really they aren't much more than a link bridge.

if you are going to build a truss, run it out as far as you can get it. that's one thing that is awesome about the artec ones. they get you plenty of strength out that far without adding too much weight.
Right, but they're very easy to build off of. I'll be doing that when spring arrives.

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Well, I know you have a reason for every aspect of your four link build. Why are your upper joints at the axle so far apart?

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Remember, my arms are shorter than most you see so they'll converge at the axle further apart. The Poly mounts sit at ~27 degrees in so I put the axle mounts where they needed to be in order to be inline with the frame mounts. When originally setting up the axle mounts on the truss, my axle was still 6" further forward than where it is now. I took a future stretch into account and put them a bit further inward and they line up perfectly where the axle sits now.

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