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Unread 04-17-2012, 09:57 AM   #1
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Suck down winch

I am wondering if I could run a fnr suck down winch in place of limiter straps? Also have found they are good for climbing, but what are the other uses for suck down winches?

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Unread 04-17-2012, 10:35 AM   #2
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I would deff not use a suckdown winch to replace limiting straps. But other uses are to fit under stuff easier, hill climbs...and thats about it. I think theyre overrated and if you have your suspension set up right you wont need a suckdown winch for hillclimbs anyway
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Why would they not work as limiters? My thinking is that they would be a teeter that once one side hits the bumpstop the other wouldn't be able to droop any further, or wouldn't that work?
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Why would they not work as limiters? My thinking is that they would be a teeter that once one side hits the bumpstop the other wouldn't be able to droop any further, or wouldn't that work?
Because the winch is centered I don't think it will have much affect on articulation.

You would have to cut down the wire to the point where it is no longer spooled at full droop, which means you are relying on very little holding that cable to the winch IE the little retaining bolt.

Now if you wanted to install a winch for each wheel that would be interesting LOL
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My problem is trying to fit 4 limiters on my narrow axle rig with 18 in coilovers. I was thinking of running a 2 in strap spooled on the winch instead of cable, but I could also have a safety chain or something that never lets either side go too far?
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Plus if you ever have to use your winch for winching, then you have nothing limiting your axles.
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I'd buy a front and rear suck down dedicated winches, and still keep my receiver mounted winch for pulling.
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My problem is trying to fit 4 limiters on my narrow axle rig with 18 in coilovers. I was thinking of running a 2 in strap spooled on the winch instead of cable, but I could also have a safety chain or something that never lets either side go too far?
There should be a **** ton of spots you can mount regular straps too, people mount them on their radius arms, axle truss, axle control arm bolts ect. As long as they are away from any moving parts and are not far off the traveling path of the suspension on one side of the vehicle.

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Plus if you ever have to use your winch for winching, then you have nothing limiting your axles.
Separate winch from your tow winch, they are usually small >1000lbs winches mounted beneath the jeep or just above the floor on the inside. One time I saw one that had a pulley rigged through the floor in the front with the pulley bolted to the engine
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Barely made room for the coilovers. Would they be strong enough on the arms. Tom woods wants one on the pinion as well. Wouldn't a good center one fix it all?
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Just bought 5 30in limit straps because they where $7 a piece at fleet farm. Also picked up a 3000lb super winch for $120. What should my plan be? Suck down, limiters, or both.
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Well I believe the center of the axle pretty much stays on the same plane when articulating horizontally (not uphill or downhill) so it wouldn't actually limit anything (unless your problem is the unloading of the front or rear suspension up or down a hill)

Are you going to run two uppers? Thats quite the big setup for one upper, not good for mr. pinion angle with some torque applied.
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If its a bad idea I'm fine with that. Im just visualizing a teeter totter off the cable in the center, once one side hits a bump stop the other side can't droop anymore. Right now it seems to me the easiest route would be a limit strap in the center stopping droop off the bumpstop, then have the suck down winch for a suck down winch. I also don't see why it wouldn't work in the rear, but my rear is simple to limit strap as there is tons of room, and I don't see a need to suck it down.
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Full droop, ride height, full squat. Not as bad as I was imagining.
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This is how I'm envisioning said limiter.
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