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Unread 10-22-2012, 05:56 PM   #46
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In addition to getting the correct Torque Converter this morning, I also got the new Push Rods. So they were installed, and I pumped oil around through the engine after installing them. I then added the comp cams break-in additive and the rest of the oil and pumped some more oil around before installing the exhaust and intake. Unfortunately one of the apparently already cracked exhaust studs broke on me, so I'll have to get a new one. Need to finish the transmission line installation, radiator and wiring, then perhaps I can start the engine and do the break-in running before letting it set while I do the body repairs.


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Unread 10-22-2012, 07:09 PM   #47
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Darn Will, do you paint the floor before every photo shoot.

How about a favor. A picture of the adjustable push rod tool, or just bring it with you on Saturday.

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1983 CJ7 pretty weekend and sometimes to work Driver in the summer, My first rebuild, if the Q-trac and 5 are broke, this one is the one to take. its just as capable as the other 2, except nice paint.
1984 Grand Wagoneer, 1 ton axles, great 360/727, and a big a$& tree fell on it .
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Unread 10-22-2012, 07:29 PM   #48
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Bill,

No i do sweep often, but the floor is dirty, even though it doesn't show in the picture. Here is the adjustable push rod:


Mines the style on the Left.

I can bring it on Saturday if you wish, let me know.

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Unread 10-22-2012, 07:44 PM   #49
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Thanks for the picture, thanks, but not necessary to bring it Saturday.

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1957 WILLYS pickup, needs work.
1973 J 4000,
1978 CJ7 DD.
1979 CJ7 360, TH400/Quadratrac trail Jeep.
1979 J20
1980 CJ5 trail Jeep.
1983 CJ7 pretty weekend and sometimes to work Driver in the summer, My first rebuild, if the Q-trac and 5 are broke, this one is the one to take. its just as capable as the other 2, except nice paint.
1984 Grand Wagoneer, 1 ton axles, great 360/727, and a big a$& tree fell on it .
1989 YJ the CJ to YJ conversion.
2005 TJ Rubicon.
2011 Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4, Mrs. LUCDOG's DD.
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Unread 10-23-2012, 09:52 PM   #50
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Not as much progress as I should have this afternoon. I did pickup the replacement exhaust manifold stud, and installed it. I also finished the brake line work. Ended up making both rear axle brake lines rather than just the one that was partially damaged. I also replaced the two brake lines between the Master Cylinder and the Proportioning Valve. Connected the front hoses next, then proceeded to bleed the system. I have the worst luck bleeding brakes, and this time is no exception. The power brake bleeder, as usual isn't as good as they claim. It leaks, at least this time it didn't leak so bad I couldn't get the brakes bleed. The only bleeding valve I can't get to open is the one on the drivers front side, may have to replace the caliper before it's over, bit will wait till I can drive the Jeep and see how the brakes are working. Next I proceeded to assemble the A/C compressor into the On-Board Air Compressor. I'm using a 450F Synthetic great by John Deere inside to keep it lubricated. It's a little work to not only install the pistons back in properly, but to get enough grease in and all the remaining parts installed. But it's all together and ready for the coil and pulley next.


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Unread 10-24-2012, 06:21 PM   #51
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Will, is this the kind of bleeder that goes on the top of the master cylinder, or a vacuum type that attaches to the bleeder?

I have a idea, I saw this when I worked at a gas station in high school.

Basically it's a 1/4" plate cut a 1/2" bigger than the master cylinder. A male air fitting is fitted to the top either by drilling and tapping, or welded on. A large "C" clamp and old gasket is used to hold the tool on the cylinder. I believe 3 lbs. of air pressure was used when the air line was connected.

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1957 WILLYS pickup, needs work.
1973 J 4000,
1978 CJ7 DD.
1979 CJ7 360, TH400/Quadratrac trail Jeep.
1979 J20
1980 CJ5 trail Jeep.
1983 CJ7 pretty weekend and sometimes to work Driver in the summer, My first rebuild, if the Q-trac and 5 are broke, this one is the one to take. its just as capable as the other 2, except nice paint.
1984 Grand Wagoneer, 1 ton axles, great 360/727, and a big a$& tree fell on it .
1989 YJ the CJ to YJ conversion.
2005 TJ Rubicon.
2011 Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4, Mrs. LUCDOG's DD.
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Unread 10-24-2012, 07:27 PM   #52
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Will, is this the kind of bleeder that goes on the top of the master cylinder, or a vacuum type that attaches to the bleeder?

I have a idea, I saw this when I worked at a gas station in high school.

Basically it's a 1/4" plate cut a 1/2" bigger than the master cylinder. A male air fitting is fitted to the top either by drilling and tapping, or welded on. A large "C" clamp and old gasket is used to hold the tool on the cylinder. I believe 3 lbs. of air pressure was used when the air line was connected.

Bill
Bill,

It's a Motive Products Power Bleeder, and back when I first bought it they used a plastic adapter that never worked. When I worked on the '46 Power Wagon, I got feed up and contacted Motive. There was a newer Aluminum Bleed cover that should work, so they shipped it to me. It worked on on the PW, but when I sued it on the Jeep, it leaked between it and the MC casing. the plastic deflected too much, and I think the aluminum might as well, but they need to use more pliable seal material in my opinion. The Motive uses 15-20 psi, and when it doesn't leak works well.

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Unread 10-26-2012, 06:55 PM   #53
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Well, after a couple days of yard work, I got a little more done on the Jeep. I've installed the rest of the front of the engine and the radiator. I also started fitting the exhaust and welded in the Air/Fuel Ration O2 Sensor bung as well. The grill is installed just to keep the radiator out of the fan while I break-in the cam when I start the engine up soon. I've also got the engine wiring harness mostly installed as well. I've prepped and Installed the transfer case, that is all except the lower mounting nut. I'll have to unbolt the drive train and jack it up off the skid plate to access it enough to tighten it down. The transfer case is one I picked up from a fellow MIJC member that had a SYE kit already installed. The read drive shaft needs a little cleaning and a new U-Joint, but should work fine. With the Jeep setting as is, I have 3" of the slip joint engauged. I also mocked up a little more of the exhaust. I will have to finish the tail pipe after the body is installed, and it looks to need a little adjustment and the end will have to be modified to keep it from getting destroyed while hanging out the rear.





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Unread 10-28-2012, 06:36 PM   #54
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Spent some time this afternoon, welding the exhaust extension, tightening up the remaining transfercase bolt, filled the transfercase and radiator. I then proceeded to pull the necessary internal wiring harness, gauge clusters, and steering wheel and hooked them up on the chassis. It took a little to discover I missed connecting the smaller firewall connector, but once it was connected I had full power and could crank the engine over. I primed the fuel system, and will do one more check over and a few other odds and ends before I roll it out and try to start it tomorrow afternoon.



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Unread 10-28-2012, 07:37 PM   #55
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A quick picture of Will's 1953 M-37.



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There's only 5 lugs on this thing, they are 3/4" studs and need a 1.5" socket

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1973 J 4000,
1978 CJ7 DD.
1979 CJ7 360, TH400/Quadratrac trail Jeep.
1979 J20
1980 CJ5 trail Jeep.
1983 CJ7 pretty weekend and sometimes to work Driver in the summer, My first rebuild, if the Q-trac and 5 are broke, this one is the one to take. its just as capable as the other 2, except nice paint.
1984 Grand Wagoneer, 1 ton axles, great 360/727, and a big a$& tree fell on it .
1989 YJ the CJ to YJ conversion.
2005 TJ Rubicon.
2011 Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4, Mrs. LUCDOG's DD.
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Unread 10-29-2012, 06:00 PM   #56
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First, a big THANKS to Bill Gangloff (lucdog) a fellow MIJC member. Bill drove down from Peoria to see me start the engine up. He spent more time on the road than he did here, but am I glad he came. Turns out I apparently did get the distributor 180 out of time. Either when I did the initial install, or when I primed the lifters, or when I pre-lubed the engine. Doesn’t matter what, I did it.

After it didn’t initially start, we checked for fuel and spark and had both. We re-checked all the connections, and tried a few more times before checking the timing. With the use of an engine pressure tester, we determined it was out 180. So I proceeded to correct it. Still didn’t start, so after some more checking, we discovered I was one tooth off on the distributor timing. Once more I pulled and re-installed the distributor, and we tried again. She started up and ran great.

Now we cranked up the RPM to the required 2,000 RPM, and started looking and checking everything over. Had a momentarily over 210 water temperature that caused us to lower the RPM, but it corrected itself and was likely an air bubble, as it didn’t happen again.

About half way through the cam break in, the engine developed a miss. The Air Fuel Ration started jumping with each miss. I suspect it might be due to the old stock spark plugs, and will install a new set of lower temperature plugs when I change out the break in oil and see if it returns. If it does I’ll have to start checking the new injectors and plug sires for problems. Almost everything is new, including the distributor, cap, wires, injectors, sensors, etc… So with the new Plugs it must be a faulty part, something I did incorrectly.

While it was running did add additional transmission fluid, and will likely need a little more when I get a chance to run it through the gears. It now has 9.5 quarts, and I believe with the deep pan should hold 10+ quarts.

It’s great to have it running with all the work and parts, and after the oil and plug change and one little exhaust change, I should be ready to start working on the tub.






VIDEO - Initial run of my Stroked 4.6L Jeep Engine
VIDEO - Miss developed during Cam break-in on my Stroked 4.6L Jeep
VIDEO - Slight Miss started about halw way through the cam break-in
VIDEO - Starting and running my Stroked Jeep 4.6L Engine


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Unread 10-30-2012, 07:29 PM   #57
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Well after yesterdays engine start and cam break-in, it was time to change the oil and install the new Spark Plugs. I elected to do the break-in with the old plugs figuring there might me some oil or other burn off that I didn't want to harm the new plugs. Not sure it was a wise idea, but I did it. As you can see in the first picture, Cylinders 3 & 4 (and partially #6) either weren't cleaned enough, or have problems and likely caused the miss the engine developed during the break-in. In the second picture you can see the cooler heat range NGK BKR6E-11 (RC9YC4) Spark plug next to one of the old Champion 4412's. (RC12LYC). While I had the plugs out I also did a room temp wet engine compression test. The results are as follows:
1 - 183 psi
2 - 182 psi
3 - 186 psi
4 - 183 psi
5 - 185 psi
6 - 183 psi
All in all only a 4 psi delta, and what I believe to be good numbers for a 9'ish Compression Ration Engine. I also checked (once I knew you could and how) checked for any Engine codes, and only found batter disconnect code which was expected. I changed the engine oil and filter and added the ZDD Plus Oil Additive. I rechecked the manifold torques, and noticed two of the exhaust pipes had a sign of what looked like oil run oil of the pipe to flange area. It's probably from the small oil leak that developed on the valve cover while running during the break-in. While the engine was running (break-in) I re-torqued the valve cover and believe I have the oil leak stopped. I also removed and extended the exhaust pipe to get the muffler to clear the skid plate, and further investigated the stock tail pipe position. I'll probably take it back, and end up having one made that fits better and is 2.5", not 2.25" in diameter. Now with the gas tank straps that arrived this afternoon, I can paint and install them and have the chassis done with the exception of drive shafts. I can't wait to get the body work done so I can see how well the engine performs. It sure sounds and runs sweet!







My "Transmission Job" & Stroker Build (JeepForum)
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Unread 11-01-2012, 05:30 PM   #58
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Took advantage of probably one of the last nice days to wash off the weekends mud off the M37, and roll out the YJ to start and run the engine again. The intent was to let the engine run a good 30 minutes and see if the miss returned, and after almost 50 minutes, it did not. The engine still runs and sounds strong, but when you rev it the Air/fuel ration jumps around it it blows out some smoke. It still smells rich, but the A/F ration says different. Fluid levels are all holding steady and looking clean.



VIDEO - About 30-35 minuets into this run
VIDEO - About 45 minuets into this run


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Unread 11-02-2012, 09:39 PM   #59
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Started the Body work today, and started off with the driver side floor, as it was the biggest hole in the body. I picked up a cheap patch panel and cut out the the rusted floor material and the rust at the body side as well. I've cut the patch panel down to fit and cleaned the floor. Not to start welding in the patches.




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Unread 11-03-2012, 07:03 PM   #60
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Spent some time this afternoon, cleaning out the tub, and applying some weld thru primer to the drivers floor. Next I started pulling off the tub interior items, rails, seat mounts, wiring, heating system, etc... As you can also see I have it on a set of wheels for easy movement and better side access.




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