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Unread 07-09-2011, 01:27 PM   #76
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This looks like a good project! It might be of interest due to a project a friend of mine might be getting into. Keep up the good work!

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Unread 07-09-2011, 10:27 PM   #77
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You are welcome, I am sure you will put it to good use
That's the plan.

I made a little more progress today. I installed the hub bearings, hub nuts, torqued them down to specs, then installed the rest of the hub internals.

Hard to tell, but the hub bearing is back behind all that grease.



This is the first hub nut installed. Notice the pin on the hub nut at ~1:30 position. The first nut gets tightened down to 50ft lbs then backed back out ~90*. Then you add the hub washer (which is keyed to the spindle and has holes in it for the pin) & then I tightened down the second nut to 50ft lbs & called it good.



Next up was the hub internals going in & then add the two snap rings. One snap ring goes on the end of the axle shaft, while the other large snap ring goes on the hub itself.



I installed the rest of the hub internals, but don't show that here because I showed them earlier being removed & wanted to cut down on some of the repetition.

Here's both ends fully assembled:



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Unread 07-09-2011, 10:36 PM   #78
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Oh, hey Art...I took a measurement for simulation purposes to see appoximately where the high steer knuckle bolt would end up at & this is what I saw.

It looks like ~6.25" of backspace room using a piece of tube that's 7/8" in diameter. Naturally, this doesn't account for the room needed for the heim, but I think there's enough room if I go with a 4.75" BS wheel, but I'm not 100% sure yet. We'll see.

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Unread 07-19-2011, 01:25 AM   #79
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I've seen that back yard... I'm surprised that grill can fit back there!

nice progress, btw... get'r'done!
That you have, Randy.

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It was an early Fathers Day present.

Well, I've been busy with family matters, blah blah blah....but I did get these items in from RuffStuff Specialties (thanks Dan!) and steering arms from Artec (thanks Nate!). Plus, I went out & bought some 1.5"x.25" wall DOM locally for my steering links.

These are the 7/8" heims, weld in bungs, jam nuts, Way Back shackle hangers for outboarding the leafs etc:





THAT's a serious steering arm! Plus most of the rest of the crossover steering install items from Artec.


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Unread 07-19-2011, 06:19 AM   #80
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Nice steering arms! Looks like they are angled. Don't the heims eliminate the need for the angle? Or is that angle still benefitial?
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Unread 07-19-2011, 08:48 AM   #81
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Looks like the standard 9 degree angle. It helps with keeping the heims neutral throughout the throw of the knuckle on it's axis. Still benifitial and eliminates the need for misalignment spacers but people use them anyway for the smaller grade 8 bolts.
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Unread 07-19-2011, 11:12 AM   #82
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Like mentioned, my understanding is that its still a good thing to have the 9* angle machined into the arms.

I found some wheels to go with the new lug pattern & should be picking these up tonight.

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Unread 07-20-2011, 12:55 AM   #83
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Exactly. I got some red label Krawlers from there too.

The wheels are now safely at rest in my garage. I think I'll try to put one of them on tonight & see how that goes.

I'd like to use my compressor & impact to initially turn the bolts - but that sucker is noisy & I wouldn't wanna wake the neighborhood.
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Unread 07-20-2011, 05:43 PM   #84
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awesome build. i am so glad i found this thread! i just brought home a set of tons a couple weeks ago. they need alot of work and frankly i was a little concerned about the steering arms. what backspacing is on those rims? i will be going the hmmwv wheel and tire route to suck the tires as close to the jeep as possible. i know the stock arms are a no go for my application. would your new arms fit inside a 16.5" rim with the monstrous backspacing of the military rim?

sorry if this has been answered, i just skimmed and posted. i am at work and can't spend the time at the moment to read the entire way through.
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Unread 07-20-2011, 05:58 PM   #85
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awesome build. i am so glad i found this thread! i just brought home a set of tons a couple weeks ago. they need alot of work and frankly i was a little concerned about the steering arms. what backspacing is on those rims? i will be going the hmmwv wheel and tire route to suck the tires as close to the jeep as possible. i know the stock arms are a no go for my application. would your new arms fit inside a 16.5" rim with the monstrous backspacing of the military rim?

sorry if this has been answered, i just skimmed and posted. i am at work and can't spend the time at the moment to read the entire way through.
Are you going to have them recentered or run the stock 7"s of backspacing? I think 3.5" bs is a minimum for most hi steer
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Unread 07-20-2011, 07:22 PM   #86
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Are you going to have them recentered or run the stock 7"s of backspacing? I think 3.5" bs is a minimum for most hi steer
that's why i'm asking him the question. i am leaving them at the stock 7" backspacing. i need a high steer arm that will actually fit inside the rim, i know it's do-able i just need to find the right arm to tuck in there, or a suitable one to modify for the task. i do not feel comfortable fabricating one myself (i will if i need to). there is a lot of measuring and steering isn't something to "get close enough". i need the huge backspacing to get a stock stance in the rear and approximately 1.5"-2" extra width per side on the front. otherwise i'm headed down stupid huge flares road or possibly custom axle shafts lane. neither of which are on my gps at the moment. this jeep needs to be DD ready when i'm done.
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Unread 07-21-2011, 12:32 AM   #87
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awesome build. i am so glad i found this thread! i just brought home a set of tons a couple weeks ago. they need alot of work and frankly i was a little concerned about the steering arms. what backspacing is on those rims? i will be going the hmmwv wheel and tire route to suck the tires as close to the jeep as possible. i know the stock arms are a no go for my application. would your new arms fit inside a 16.5" rim with the monstrous backspacing of the military rim?
They are 4.75" BS.

I don't know if the Artec arms would work with the set-up you mentioned. I don't know if a Chevy or Dodge kingpin knuckle would make a difference as far as wheel clearance either. Sorry I'm of no help in that aspect.

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Unread 07-21-2011, 06:03 AM   #88
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awesome build. i am so glad i found this thread! i just brought home a set of tons a couple weeks ago. they need alot of work and frankly i was a little concerned about the steering arms. what backspacing is on those rims? i will be going the hmmwv wheel and tire route to suck the tires as close to the jeep as possible. i know the stock arms are a no go for my application. would your new arms fit inside a 16.5" rim with the monstrous backspacing of the military rim?

sorry if this has been answered, i just skimmed and posted. i am at work and can't spend the time at the moment to read the entire way through.
If your going to run stock DRW hubs then you can use what ever arms you want, if your using a SRW then you need steering arms that are made to clear H-1's.
You also need to chop the OEM steer arm off if your going to run H-1's on a SRW hub. So the arms that conect to the OEM hole will not work with H-1's and SRW hubs, well unless you run a 1" spacer.

Joe I got you beat this is 2" DOM for my rear steer,



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Unread 07-21-2011, 06:05 AM   #89
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no need to apologize, it was just a question. if you don't know, you don't know. this thread will be alot of help when i get around to doing my front.
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Unread 07-21-2011, 09:20 AM   #90
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It looks like you have your hands full Joe.
Those wheels are *****in!
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