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post #1 of 40 Old 11-20-2013, 06:50 PM Thread Starter
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Yj full width axle swap

its time for the next upgrade! i am in the process of buying parts and building the axles for the swap. the axles im building are a 79 f250 dana 44 with 5 lug outers and a 79 9 inch. i am at a bit of a block when it comes to the steering. my plan is to buy a reid knuckle for the passenger side but im not sure what arm to run?? i have never dealt with high steer before, one concern i have is do i need an offset arm? i plan on running 15 inch steel wheels with 3.75 bs. also what is a good arm to run? thanks in advance!


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post #2 of 40 Old 11-22-2013, 01:09 PM
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I used stock flat top knuckles off a chevy/dodge, and made some arms from 1x2 solid stock. Way cheaper than aftermarket knuckles. I ran factory steering linkage shortened a little until I bought enough heims and Dom to redo all the steering. Knuckles cost me 50/pr and the steel was like $16 for some scrap pieces which I cut to length and drilled for the studs.
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post #3 of 40 Old 11-22-2013, 02:51 PM Thread Starter
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The reason I was planning on buying a reid knuckle is the axle I'm using was just rebuild last year, all of the components are basically new. With the Chevy knuckle u have to use Chevy brakes right? I could probably get my local machine shop ( Mennonite) to make me an arm. They are very reasonably priced on stuff and have a pretty nice shop. Could u post up a pic of ur arm?

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post #4 of 40 Old 11-22-2013, 03:22 PM
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I could, I have since gone 1 ton stuff. I'll be helping a buddy who has the old axles tomorrow. I have the diagram for the measurement saved on my computer. Or you can google Dana 44 high steer images and find it there. Didn't have the knuckles machined or anything just light grinding of the top to clean it up.
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post #5 of 40 Old 11-22-2013, 06:07 PM
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IIRC Sky Off Road and Design has the high steer arm and can machine the current knuckle to accept it. Ruff Stuff has GM tapers so you can drill out any part and locate TRE's where you need them.
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post #6 of 40 Old 11-22-2013, 06:27 PM
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I'm doing the same swap soon. I'm using a Reid knuckle on the passenger side so I can keep the Ford style outers as well. With 3.75" backspacing you should be fine with any high steer arm. I'll be running 5" backspaced rims, so I'm using a Crane offset high steer arm:

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post #7 of 40 Old 11-22-2013, 07:18 PM
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The part of the reason I made them was that I could make them fit with stock wheels. 15x7 with probably a 5" bs. Worked well, maybe I can round up some old build pics.

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post #8 of 40 Old 11-22-2013, 08:31 PM Thread Starter
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Also another factor to the Reid knuckle is that 5 lug Ford knuckles "can not" be milled and tapped for high steer. Going cross over I know is the right thing to do, it's just a lot of extra cost ontop of building axles and getting everything ready for the swap. I have been going back and forth between cross over and a bent drag link. Im pretty well set on cross over now tho. I was looking at the ballistic fab arm. But before I went any father wanted to make sure 1 ton stuff would clear the wheels.

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post #9 of 40 Old 11-23-2013, 10:12 PM
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I've seen the ford ones tapped and ground flat. They work, but just don't have the same shape and structure as gm flats. I'm sure the 1/2" cast is fine enough for milder build, but Chevy one is already cast for beef. I'm honestly just cheap as crap. I like effectiveness, effective doesn't have to mean expensive in this scenario.

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post #10 of 40 Old 11-24-2013, 06:53 PM Thread Starter
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I'm sure it would be fine for what i am doing, and i hear ya on the cheap and effective thing!! the steering knuckle is one thing tho that i dont really want to skimp on. the plan is, i have a nice shopping cart list for both summit racing and ruff stuff. i plan on either black friday or cyber monday buying the stuff. im hoping they have some for specials running to save a few bucks (back to the cheap as crap thing hahaha) ive changed some of my stuff around and am not buying anything from ballistic now( not that i have anything against them) just i can get everything from ruff stuff and will not have to pay for ballistics outrageous shipping and handling charges. i also know from searching that people talk very highly about dan at ruff stuff.

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Ruff Stuff is a first class operation. I bought a lot of stuff from them during my build. You can't go wrong with them!
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post #12 of 40 Old 11-28-2013, 04:02 PM Thread Starter
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just put my order in for ruff stuff! the high steer arm and stud kit are ordered. also got their 9 inch install kit. i used the discount code DEARWIFE this gave me free shipping plus an additional $4 off my order.

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post #13 of 40 Old 11-29-2013, 02:32 PM Thread Starter
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Got my order put in to summit racing as well. The ups man is gonna be busy bringing stuff to my house next week

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Brown Santa comes year round. We don't wait all year like the kids.

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post #15 of 40 Old 12-03-2013, 05:24 PM Thread Starter
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Santa has brought me some early Christmas presents i still have 3 packages in shipping but here is the stuff that i have gotten. ruff stuff is beefy!!
1. order from ruff stuff. axle swap kit, high steer arm, stud kit.
2. high steer arm top
3. high steer arm bottom( to me they could have moved the hole a little bit to center it better.)
4. two out of the four springs( other 2 in shipping) re 1.5 soa springs. ( they have a lot more arch than i thought they would!)
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