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post #1 of 24 Old 07-20-2013, 04:30 PM Thread Starter
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Yj Front dana 44 help

So I had a local guy cut and narrow my 78 F250 HP Dana 44 to waggy width.
First of all I now have gear oil leaking out of the tube to center section seam.
Not sure why or how.
Second the caster is wrong so the inner c's need to come off again.
Third the Reid knuckles are rubbing the inner c. I concerned the c may be bent.
Anybody have a good measurement to verify the c's condition?
If it is bent, I need new c's.
I find many of them with the 2 3/4" tube diameter. Mine is 3".
Can I just have a machine shop bore it out to the 3" tube size?
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post #2 of 24 Old 07-20-2013, 04:49 PM
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sounds like you got robbed by a hack.

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i had a set of solid inner cs machined out to fit. In the end it was an unwise move as it cost as much as the cs themselves.

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Oh, he's fixing it.
To be fair, the inner c and leak most likely aren't his fault.

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How did he narrow it? Did he pull the tubes from the housing or did he pull the Cs off the tubes?
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How did he narrow it? Did he pull the tubes from the housing or did he pull the Cs off the tubes?
Knocked the c's off.

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The leak at the center section probably isn't his fault then. Depending on how he took the C (cut the tube first and then pulled it out of the C or pulled the C and then cut the tube) it is possible that they tweaked the inner C.
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Is welding the tube to the center section to fix the leak an acceptable repair?

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Is welding the tube to the center section to fix the leak an acceptable repair?
No but at this point you don't have much choice. Did the axle leak prior to the narrow job? If not he ( the builder ) munched something when he chopped those C's off its the only thing that would add up.

Maybe he tried to pull the tubes out of the center section??? Its a odd thing to send a axle out to be narrowed then get it back with this problem and others.
I have done plenty of narrow jobs on 60's and 44 fronts but never had one leak after.

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unless the owner never had it filled with fluid before he had the guy work on it.

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I got the axle from a salvage yard and don't know anything about whether it leaked or not.
The guy has done lots of these projects, and he didn't attempt to remove the tubes. I'm not mentioning his business because I want to give him a chance to make it right.
What is the "correct" way to repair this leak?

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What is the "correct" way to repair this leak?
Well the only real way is to weld the tube's to the chunk. But here is what concerns me, is once a axle starts leaking from that factory press fit then the tube could spin or already has.

The best thing you can do is maybe when it goes back to the builder if he has a line up bar and can check the axle to see what is out or why.
Then have the C's cut and put on the way you want them and while he is there hit the tube to center section area.
Then I would build a small truss to lock both tubes together to the chunk.

Few thing to watch for if the tubes are bent or not a proper fit with the C's, watch for pre-mature bearing failure or a odd pattern on the shaft splines after a few thousand miles of use.

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So, how do I check to see if the tubes are bent?
I can't visually see anything.

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One more question:
I'm guessing I need new inner c's and it looks like aftermarket is the practical solution.
Who's do I get?

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Check out parts mike he has really good prices on builder parts.

If it was me I would go with deadnbar.

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