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View Poll Results: To lengthen or not to lengthen and how to go about it?
Leave it be with rear axle 6" wider 2 8.33%
Add 2" adapters to the front making the difference only 2" total 7 29.17%
Add 3" adapters to the front making the axles the same length 2 8.33%
You have no business owning this Cherokee. Drive it off of a cliff immediately! 9 37.50%
Other - please specify 4 16.67%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

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Unread 03-03-2013, 11:58 AM   #31
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edit: ill never wheel with you so what do i care if your rig cant fit down the trails. do what you want


and by track correctly i mean if the front fits between something and its close then the rear doesn’t stand a chance

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Unread 03-03-2013, 12:02 PM   #32
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track differently on the trail as in the rear wont be able to follow the front. if the front barely fits between 2 trees the rear wont have a chance. look at most vehicles, the front is a little wider than the rear to make it track better.

i dont understand the issue with swapping axles, you already did it once. (wrong but you atleast know how to do it) an 8.8 or dana 44 are both dirt cheap and will take less than a day to put in, and the ford 9 is more expensive than either of them.

theres nothing worse than wheeling with someone too impatient to set their rig up correctly and having to wait on them all day because **** goes wrong or they just don't fit.

think of it this way if you are sitting on a rock on the inside edge of your front tire crawling something, your rear will completely miss that rock and you'll drag your axle over it
With the spacers he'll have a matching track width.
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Unread 03-03-2013, 12:05 PM   #33
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With the spacers he'll have a matching track width.
if you look at how a front axle works you will see his steering will be a little funky given that instead of the wheel pivoting around where the ball joint is it will now travel in an arc and scrub when he turns. not to mention the enormous amount of extra stress that 2 or 3" wheel spacers will put on the already small/weak ball joints and wheel bearings of the dana 44
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Unread 03-03-2013, 12:07 PM   #34
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im not trying to be a dick but you could sell that 9" for a pretty penny with a locker and 4.88s. i think you'll be disappointed on the trail with the way it drives with a width difference. also what are your plans for a spare tire if you have a blowout on the trail?

yea setting up gears and buying a locker sucks but in the end i think it will be worth it...
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Unread 03-03-2013, 12:14 PM   #35
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im not trying to be a dick but you could sell that 9" for a pretty penny with a locker and 4.88s. i think you'll be disappointed on the trail with the way it drives with a width difference. also what are your plans for a spare tire if you have a blowout on the trail?

yea setting up gears and buying a locker sucks but in the end i think it will be worth it...
That's why we ask these questions. I'd be for doing it the right way, the first time. But I'm a spoiled broke American, so I'm calling Currie when the time comes. I wanna bolt 'em in, hook the air to the lockers, bleed the brakes and go.
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Unread 03-03-2013, 12:21 PM   #36
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im not trying to be a dick but you could sell that 9" for a pretty penny with a locker and 4.88s. i think you'll be disappointed on the trail with the way it drives with a width difference. also what are your plans for a spare tire if you have a blowout on the trail?

yea setting up gears and buying a locker sucks but in the end i think it will be worth it...
I don't think you're being a dick at all. Of course picking up a matching set of axles would be ideal and in a year or so I'd probably go that route. I just don't have the cash right now and don't feel like prolonging my return to the trails any longer than need be.
If I don't put adapter on the front then I'll just pick up one adapter, so that I can get off the trail if I blow out either the front or rear. If I DO go with the adapters then I'll be running 5x5.5 on both axles, so no worries on the spare woring for both axles.
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Unread 03-03-2013, 12:30 PM   #37
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Couldn't u pick up another 9 inch with a narrower track, swap the third members and resell the axle that's in it now. As long as u make sure the shafts have the same spline count. 9 inches aren't hard to get, I just got one for free last night
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Unread 03-03-2013, 12:37 PM   #38
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Couldn't u pick up another 9 inch with a narrower track, swap the third members and resell the axle that's in it now. As long as u make sure the shafts have the same spline count. 9 inches aren't hard to get, I just got one for free last night
That seems actually like the best solution

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Couldn't u pick up another 9 inch with a narrower track, swap the third members and resell the axle that's in it now. As long as u make sure the shafts have the same spline count. 9 inches aren't hard to get, I just got one for free last night
I was actually wondering if I could do that. That wouldn't fix my mismatched bolt patterns though.

Or is there a full width D44 with 5x5.5 pattern that I could just swap my gears/locker over to? THAT would be the easiest. Well, if it was already set up for an XJ. If not I would most likely pick up the T&T truss and have it welded on.
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I think the only axle that is like a waggy is an older Ford axle that would be low pinion. The better option is getting a 9 that is narrower. The 9 was in so many applications that it shouldn't be hard to find one the correct width
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I think if I am going to replace the 9" with something I'll just pick up a Waggy rear D44 to match the front, which is what I SHOULD have done to begin with. If I keep the rear 9" then I'll either convert the front to 5x5.5 and run spacers or pick up a Ford D44 to match the rear.

HOWEVER..............

That is not the immediate plan. I need a quicker fix to hold me over until I can do one of the above, so THAT is what I'm asking for advice on in this thread. I KNOW what the best options are. I am NOT going in that direction right now, but this will just be short term. Long term I will do it up right....or at least "righter".
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I ordered a set of adapter/spacers from these folks for a very reasonable price. They made and shipped them within 24 hrs and I received them in a total of 3 days from the time I ordered them.

http://www.airbagit.com/Wheel-Adapters-s/1572.htm
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I ordered a set of adapter/spacers from these folks for a very reasonable price. They made and shipped them within 24 hrs and I received them in a total of 3 days from the time I ordered them.

http://www.airbagit.com/Wheel-Adapters-s/1572.htm
Ok, and how about the adapters? Did you like them? Details on what they went on and what your situation was....performance after installation....any issues?
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hahahahahaha.....I see someone voted that I drive my XJ off a cliff

I thought I could check to see who voted for what in my poll. For some reason I can't figure it out right now
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Unread 03-03-2013, 05:31 PM   #45
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narrowing that 9" is pretty easy. cut the tube ends to the length you need. weld on new bearing cups.
new bearing cups are like $50 or $60 last time i was looking at a set. then buy shafts for it the right length.
universal cut to fit 9" shafts are usually pretty cheap too.

or buy the spacers.
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