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post #1 of 9 Old 08-19-2012, 08:35 AM Thread Starter
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Air shocks

I am thinking about ditching the springs for my willys build because of space and wanting to do it right the first time.I don't know the first think on air shocks and was wondering if someone could point m in the direction of the ins and outs of them?Thanks

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How heavy will the rig be, this will a decinding factor on what size shocks ( 2.0's or 2.5' ), then of course what lenght would right for the build.

What WMS axle's are you planing on using, if there small under 60" wms then getting the full drop out of a shock is harder since it mount closer to the rig or frame.
Theres alot of info need from you like I said weight is one, axle's, even motor and drive train placement.

I run 14" 2.0 Fox shocks on the rear and have a set of 16" for the front, at this point the 16" will probally go on the buiggy build. More info and we can point you in the right direction.

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WMS 68.5 and should be around 3800-4200 and I am running a amc V8
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Ok so now you have alot of room on the axle's to mount the shock tabs and have enough space for them to swing towards the Jeep frame/body without contact.
How much travel are you looking for and full body rigs can get tricky with a 4 linked front as the upper links mounted to the axle can come close or contact the bell crank area. A 3 link front might be in order and a crossed 4 for the the rear.

You right on the mark of getting 2.5's, I am to but decided to just keep the 2.0's and run them. I bumped the pressure up to make up for the fact that I'm maybe on the verge of being to heavy for them, but they work very well and 2.0's are much cheaper than 2.5's.

Figure out ride hieght then start looking at full drop looks like on the rig. Remember at ride hiehgt the shocks cant be straight up and down, as the rig flexs that one side shock will fold unload under the rig and may not return as fast as you want.

This is my rig being set up,



Notice how they sit at full stuff they are at a 12~15* outward angle. Then notice at full flex they still keep a outward angle.


This is very important if your shocks are not at a outward at ride hieght angle they can't perform when fully flexed.

Also don't weld anything in till you flex and test it sevral time's, I moved my tabs twice and finally found a spot I was happy with.

Some other ramdam shots of mouting, shocks at full stuff.



axle shock tab.



Tabs and tube work done, just waiting on welding.



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Awesome,thanks! how do you figure out how much to charge them or is a a figure it out as you run the rig sort of thing?
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I am looking at the Fox 2.0's,whats the difference between the Emulsion shocks and the regular shocks?
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Anyone wanting some info on air shocks read this,great article on setting them up and what not

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...hox/index.html
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Anyone wanting some info on air shocks read this,great article on setting them up and what not

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/PR-Airshox/index.html
I was just going to link that thread, lots of good info.
And a more recent one.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1085441

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Thanks,my head hurts from all this info!!!!HAHA
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