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post #16 of 29 Old 01-29-2013, 06:52 PM Thread Starter
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Same width?

1976-77 F100/150 will have weld on wedges, 1978-79 F150/Bronco will have cast wedges, and a 78-79 F250 Dana 44 is about as good as you can get. With the work your having done, you could use any of them. Really all your using is the center section

Will the Ford be the same width as the rear d44 off the wagi? What is the difference between the cast wedges, and the weld on weges, does it matter? (sprig perch?) Will the ford be the same width as the wagi, will it have the same bolt pattern as the rear d44 off the wagi or would I look for both front and back?

I had trouble trying to find a 79 or older wagi front end, will it be easer to find the ones you mention above?

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post #17 of 29 Old 01-29-2013, 07:50 PM
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They will be full width axles, so wider than the waggy. They're saying to buy a cheap HP44 (78-79 will have the cast wedges and will be cheap), have your guy swap the tubes into the HP44 section, and use your existing Waggy outers.
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post #18 of 29 Old 01-30-2013, 07:21 AM Thread Starter
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Sorry for so many questions, but I want to do this correct. The solution I see is:
1. Keep the Rear D44 off the waggy , install the lockers and gear change.
2. Get a D44 out of either a 1976-77 F100/150 will have weld on wedges, or a 1978-79 F150/Bronco will have cast wedges, both HP.
3. Have the axle shop use the tubes off the waggi front end and attach to the HP44

Or do I have to get both front and rear HP44 and have them change the tubes on both front and back?
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post #19 of 29 Old 01-30-2013, 12:27 PM
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That is one option.

Your rear axle is fine, your front is the problem.

You could also get a front Chevy 44 and just have it narrowed. Or you could find a 79 and older Wagoneer front.

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post #20 of 29 Old 03-10-2013, 10:51 AM Thread Starter
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Feel like giving up

I thought I had a solution, I was going to bring my Dana 44 out of new wagoneer, which had the front axle drop on the wrong side to a axle shop. By the time we got done with lockers and changing to HP dana's we started getting to 6k cost. Not going to happen.
I already welded the poisen spyer outboard sping kit on my frame, need to find axles. HP would be good. So disgusted I am thinking of parting out all my jeep equipment and quiting.
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post #21 of 29 Old 03-10-2013, 11:02 AM
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not sure on the years but there are two waggy front Dana 44's
1 passenger side pumpkin
2 drivers side pumpkin


Don't quit yet find the right front end!

Or look for a Scout Dana44 front end. have to turn knuckles etc

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post #22 of 29 Old 03-10-2013, 06:22 PM
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You CAN, but that opens up a new can of warms with new expeinces. Fliping the 300 is not really worth the cost in my opinion.
Why do you say that? Way cheaper and easier than messing around with cutting axle tubes.

I picked up a clocking ring for $50 and my shift rails are still in the stock location, dont get me wrong its TIGHT but it can be done. Cable shifters are also another way of doing it.

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post #23 of 29 Old 03-10-2013, 06:25 PM
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rockvillage I see you are in Middleboro, MA. Im in Sturbridge, MA you're welcome to check out my setup sometime! Im running 1988 Waggy 44's with the D300 flipped.

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post #24 of 29 Old 05-07-2013, 07:28 PM Thread Starter
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Update, found an older wagoner DANA 44 front end in TX. Had it shipped to Middleboro. Now both axles are in Belcher town at a friends house, he is installing 4/11's Grizzly lockers front and rear, and Warn professional front hub lock outs. Back on track!
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post #25 of 29 Old 05-08-2013, 10:18 PM
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How much did it cost to ship the axle. I've been waiting for one locally for too long but I keep seeing them on craigslist out of town. My cj looks like a tractor with a narrow d30 front and a extra wide 9" w/boggers out back.

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post #26 of 29 Old 05-10-2013, 08:44 AM Thread Starter
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I paid 500.00 for the axle and 300.00 for shipping. Other wise the project was dead. I have a front d44 drivers side drop if you are interested
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post #27 of 29 Old 05-10-2013, 12:56 PM
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Yeah i need passenger side, but thanks. I was really just curious of how high it would be to ship something like that my ranger gets 20mpg hwy so if i find one within 800miles I can beat shipping.

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post #28 of 29 Old 05-10-2013, 01:56 PM
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Yeah i need passenger side, but thanks. I was really just curious of how high it would be to ship something like that my ranger gets 20mpg hwy so if i find one within 800miles I can beat shipping.
Where are you located? I've go one for sale $150 in NC. Complete other than tie rod and calipers. 3.08 gears but needs rebuild. PM me if interested

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post #29 of 29 Old 05-11-2013, 10:40 PM
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Thanks jp360 but ill pass on the 308 gears. Im actually eyeballing a ramcharger 44 axle locally for 150 with 3.73s and passenger side drop. Ill still have to regear my 9" but im heading in the right direction. I was planning on pulling my 9" apaart to put in a mini spool anyways, you cant beat a $30 traction aid. I guess there goes my tread life. lol

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