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Unread 04-07-2011, 01:53 PM   #31
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Unread 04-09-2011, 07:24 PM   #32
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Unread 04-10-2011, 06:58 AM   #33
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I'll update when I can, but you guys can stay informed through the Department of Natural Resources. They like to schedule things during the week quite often so those closer to the parks may have a better opportunity to attend meetings, clean-ups, etc.

Here's the link:

DNR Trails Mailing List
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Unread 04-10-2011, 06:38 PM   #34
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Was just up there today and there are signs all over the place about it being CLOSED as of April 24.

The condition of the trail wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. It looked as if some parts had some work done to them. Grading, drainage direction, and filling of washouts and mud holes with gravel.
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Unread 04-10-2011, 07:38 PM   #35
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Was just up there today and there are signs all over the place about it being CLOSED as of April 24.

The condition of the trail wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. It looked as if some parts had some work done to them. Grading, drainage direction, and filling of washouts and mud holes with gravel.
Why? aren't those just parts of the trail?
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Unread 04-10-2011, 08:54 PM   #36
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Why? aren't those just parts of the trail?
No, the trail is not intended to be challenging.
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Unread 04-10-2011, 09:15 PM   #37
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No, the trail is not intended to be challenging.
Exactly. The washouts are a result of erosion caused by rain run off. They can help make it more fun to drive around, but are a problem to streams and rivers if the sediment is not controlled. This along with the ranger's inability to easily access the camp sites is a major concern with the DNR as well.

Personally I'd like to have some challenges added to the area, but I doubt that will happen.
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Unread 04-10-2011, 09:42 PM   #38
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I'll update when I can, but you guys can stay informed through the Department of Natural Resources. They like to schedule things during the week quite often so those closer to the parks may have a better opportunity to attend meetings, clean-ups, etc.

Here's the link:

DNR Trails Mailing List
I signed up for it but didn't receive a confirmation email or anything. Does it just put you on a mailing list or something? It also didn't say address or phone number was mandatory so I skipped that stuff.

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Exactly. The washouts are a result of erosion caused by rain run off. They can help make it more fun to drive around, but are a problem to streams and rivers if the sediment is not controlled. This along with the ranger's inability to easily access the camp sites is a major concern with the DNR as well.

Personally I'd like to have some challenges added to the area, but I doubt that will happen.
We need dedicated ORV trails, as in, not access roads and not open to dirtbikes or quads.

Edit: Nothing against dirbikes and quads but full size vehicles obviously need different and more challenging trails and terrain than dirtbikes.
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Unread 04-17-2011, 03:36 AM   #39
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Unread 04-18-2011, 11:15 AM   #40
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Has anyone who signed up for the mailing list received anything yet?
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Unread 04-18-2011, 11:35 AM   #41
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Has anyone who signed up for the mailing list received anything yet?
I signed up and supplied all the info they requested, but I have got nothing back at all.
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Unread 04-18-2011, 12:43 PM   #42
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I have not heard any updates since the April 7th DNR ride/ trails audit at Green Ridge. We are looking for some announcement from DNR following that ride.

I am unsure if that mailing list is a for periodic updates or weekly communications.

If I find anything out in the meantime, I'll let everyone know.

It is Maryland, so you know things will not get fast-tracked. . . .
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Unread 04-18-2011, 04:48 PM   #43
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I sent an email in this morning to the DNR Director and a separate committee member.

"Has there been any recent updates as far as Green Ridge? Is Maryland continuing to look at new avenues to open for OHV possibilities?

Thanks for any updates.

-Jason"


Latest update from DNR (6:00pm Monday 4/18):

"We are continuing to look for new opportunities, but no new developments at this point. Thank you for your continued interest."

John F. Wilson
Associate Director
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Land Acquisition & Planning
Tawes State Office Building E-4
Annapolis, Maryland 21401
(410) 260-8412


Reply from other committee member:

"No updates. And no, they aren't unless we bring them the opportunities. And even at that, they have thrown up a lot of roadblocks to opening new trails.

I went to a citizens meeting out in Garrett County and their local State Senator (Edwards) and the State Delegate are looking into this.

I wouldn't be very hopeful.
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Unread 04-18-2011, 10:27 PM   #44
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Thank you for your continued interest? As if people are going to lose interest? What do they do all day in that office? Fill out crossword puzzles and look at funny pictures of cats? Besides being condescending, it sounds like these people held that one meeting and are using it as an excuse to be totally inactive.
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Unread 04-19-2011, 05:09 AM   #45
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Thank you for your continued interest? As if people are going to lose interest? What do they do all day in that office? Fill out crossword puzzles and look at funny pictures of cats? Besides being condescending, it sounds like these people held that one meeting and are using it as an excuse to be totally inactive.
Exactly. By enacting the closures without any announcement, they got everyone mad, so they held the "meeting" and fed everyone a bunch of lip service about being concerned and wanting to listen to us. They know that the number of people who are really concerned about keeping PUBLIC land open to the PUBLIC is rather small compared to the total number of voters. They also know that if the story is thrown out in the media for mass consumption that it will be presented so as to make US look like the bad guys and play towards the "green sentiment". Essentially they are just waiting for us to go away.
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