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Unread 12-03-2010, 06:04 AM   #16
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Thats a good idea and maybe chain them up so they dont become part of the trash themselves.

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Unread 12-03-2010, 06:06 AM   #17
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yeah I already considered that. Punch holes through thwem andf chain em up as tight as I can to a tree or drive pilings into the ground a few feet deep.
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Unread 12-03-2010, 06:12 AM   #18
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yeah and even to make it eco friendly by putting a rubber or plastic on the chain that is around the tree so the bark doesnt get disturbed
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Unread 12-03-2010, 06:16 AM   #19
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yeah and even to make it eco friendly by putting a rubber or plastic on the chain that is around the tree so the bark doesnt get disturbed
youre going a little far now. This is all coming out of my pocket lol. Its gonna be chinese chain
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Unread 12-03-2010, 06:22 AM   #20
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Oh gotcha going to pick it up at the berlin mart? haha
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Unread 12-03-2010, 06:24 AM   #21
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maybe. there or ho chi mihn freight
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Unread 12-03-2010, 06:49 AM   #22
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Thanks Mudboy for you efforts.
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Unread 12-03-2010, 06:57 AM   #23
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No problem, but I'm gonna be asking each and everyone of you for a favor when it comes to the OHV park time. I'm going to need masses of people willing to show that they would be willing to use the park and stop WHEELING in the Pines and leave the pines strictly for TRAIL RIDING/ exploring. There has been very little effort ever shown for an ORV park for trucks and not ATVs. When the time comes everyone of yall are going to be needed. I'm telling you now, the area that they are looking at is bad ***!!! 2000 acres, trails, hills and mud unlike anyone has seen before. If you pick up a small clump of this mud and let it dry then crumple it up in your fingers, all that is left is dust. when it's wet it has the consistecy of baby poo
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Unread 12-03-2010, 07:04 AM   #24
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I work in NJ and live in PA. I go to the pine barrens about once a month with my 4 year old son, he loves playing in the sand. People just need to use common sense. I pickup trash along the way, everyone needs to do their part. I agree there about clear rules/law. Also what is Damage? The trails are going to wear, as does roads. So trails get pot holes or ruts in them. 99% of the land is untouched. Also do the tree huggers know the differance between damage from vehicle and nature? The spring from the snow melt and rain this past year washed out a lot of trail and dainage pipes.

PS put a shopping Mall and housing on the land and the state will find a way to justify that. Money!!!!! LOL thanks again
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Unread 12-03-2010, 07:21 AM   #25
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I've been in steady communication with a few higher up greenies. They needed some education just as much as I did and still do. Everyone is aware that since the roads are dirt, they wuill not be pothole and rut free. Damage is when people are flooring it in 2 wheel drive to see if they can make it or just trying to rut something out. This does happen back there alot. they are also aware of the washouts from this previous winter. **** happens its the woods but at the same time people can't be using the pipes fro a crawling obstacle and bottom out on them and destroy them. We have to prevent posts such as this
Crossing is out Constable Bridge Road
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Unread 12-03-2010, 08:04 AM   #26
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Sh*t id even pay an annual fee for a legal pit to wheel
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Unread 12-03-2010, 08:24 AM   #27
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ok I have a few good questions. I frequently drive down 539 from jackson/lakehurst area down to school by atlantic city. Iv also take 206 several times to go different places and have noticed TONS of trails shooting off of the main road. On 539 I have noticed several signs stating $10,000 fines for OHV, Motorcycle, ATV so on and so forth. Are you allowed to drive on these trails w/ a Jeep (Properly registered, insured, wheels covered, completely legal)?
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Unread 12-03-2010, 08:37 AM   #28
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I also believe these trails need a rating system. As much as you may not like it, this is a state park so Mr. Greenie needs to know where his Prius can and cannot make it. this would be a "green" trail. basically a Green would be 2wd accessible, such as Carranza, Burt mill, quakerbridge etc.

I just think its funny how u think burnt mill would be green, i was just there 2 weeks ago and my dad got his 2010 F-150 stuck!!! just goes to show you dont know who went thru before you!!
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Unread 12-03-2010, 08:43 AM   #29
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Most of burnt mill though has go arounds the only problem part on it is the entrance after it rains
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Unread 12-03-2010, 08:46 AM   #30
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Depending on the area of 539. North of rt 70 is Fort Dix Property which noone is allowed on. Some of it on the easternside is Colliers Mills WMA. In bewtween 70 and 72, it is mainly greenwood WMA. Some spots are private property. South of 72 is partially Bass River State Forest and Stafford Forge WMA. As far as WMAs I know they have similar laws as a State Forest. I will post a link in a minute with a contact where you can request a hard copy of the WMA laws. i have them but they are home. One thing that is definately different is that WMAs are only open during daytime hours (Dawn-Dusk). Driving through a WMA at night could run you $100. bass River is the same laws as Wharton. the reason you see these signs is that a few years back OHV traffic was very popular. Any street legal vehicle including a Toyota Prius could be classified as a "Class 1 ORV", so Yes if your vehicle is `100% legal you are allowed to follow the trails legally. these signs refer to "Class 2 ORVs".
As far as Rt 206 goes, Once you get South of route 532 (Medford-Chatsworth Road). A majority of the roads shooting off are Wharton State Forest, which I have the laws stated above in a link.
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