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post #61 of 115 Old 02-11-2010, 01:30 PM
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Yes, things did get distorted. But I was not saying that YOU distorted anything. What you said sounded fair and reasonable to me. The distortion is when people start stating it like fact that this one trail ride is the reason why the land might get shut down. Thats clearly not the case. I'd at least give Jay some credit for acknowledging his responsibility for questionable activity. And I can't help but wonder how many people that are now throwing darts have been guilty of the same at some point in time?
Here's the math my friend:

Jay has been guilty of "being in the wrong place at the wrong time" more than once. He even acknowledges this in his email to Cowls.

He was kicked out of UJ and we asked him to leave wm4x4 (forum-he was never a paying member) after videos popped up of him wheeling illegally.

Now I don't know about you but I know about myself and those I wheel with:

WE DON'T WHEEL WHERE WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO.

Therefore, we never have to use the excuse of "being in the wrong place at the wrong time".


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post #62 of 115 Old 02-11-2010, 02:40 PM
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thanks mason for trying to clarify what went on, as he said, i didnt cause any of the damage, i did set up the group get together, however as billy said(ill agree with you for once billy) not knowing the trail well enough led to poor preperation for the run, it was bad judgement on my part, and someone including myself shouldve spoken up at the time and not after the fact. as for uj and wm4x4, that was some time ago, a good majority of that was just myself being very irrisponsible and stupid with the wrong crowd of people. times have changed. different people, however it seems theres always something to cause a stir. i apoligize for my actions, however everyone along was/is an adult, and should be responsible for their own actions, no one should have to be a babysitter. thank you to those of you who understand and can see where im coming from with all this. lesson has been learned very much so from all of this...jay
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post #63 of 115 Old 02-11-2010, 03:03 PM
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just so everyone knows the exact details of rsg, hope this clears it all up----jay---

Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:49 PM From: Cinda Jones <cjones@cowls.com> To: jayzzorro@charter.net Subject: RE: Brushy Mountain Size: 6 KB Brushy is still in the hands of WD Cowls, Inc. And always will be.
Sometime in late 2010 or early 2011 Brushy will likely have a new
Conservation Restriction held by Fish & Wildlife that will not permit jeeps
or 4 wheelers on W. D. Cowls' Brushy Mountain anymore. You are free to Jeep
responsibly on Brushy until our CR is in place which won't be for several
months at a minimum.

Cinda

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North Amherst, MA 01059
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www.cowls.com cjones@cowls.com

-----Original Message-----
From: jayzzorro@charter.net [jayzzorro@charter.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 2:52 PM
To: Cinda Jones
Subject: RE: Brushy Mountain

cinda-just looking to clear up the rumors going around, is the brushy
mountain area officially closed and in the hands of the state now or is that
just a rumor? just trying to get all the facts. we want to make sure its
still accessable land before we or anyone else goes near there,
thanks--jason
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post #64 of 115 Old 02-23-2010, 10:39 AM
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Can someone please p.m me anywhere around here to go wheeling? Thank you!
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post #65 of 115 Old 02-23-2010, 06:44 PM
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Your Rig needs some work. Never go alone.

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post #66 of 115 Old 02-24-2010, 01:01 AM
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Whats wrong with my rig haha we can't all own 05 rubis
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post #67 of 115 Old 02-24-2010, 03:55 PM
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There is nothing wrong with it But Your tires are stock (small) , no lift ,tow hooks?
I would put some work into it before you head out. Don't go out alone hook up with a club once you have bigger tires.

I also have a 86 CJ7 that's my trail Jeep.

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post #68 of 115 Old 02-24-2010, 03:56 PM Thread Starter
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I would not put a dime into a Dana 35.
Im about to drop $75ish on my new D-35 for Por15 and a topcoat I could'nt pass up 4:10 gears for 100 bucks each. Plus I read I would have to swap T-cases if I went with a Scout II.
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post #69 of 115 Old 02-24-2010, 04:00 PM
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The Dana 35 is turd Don't paint it toss it. No you can use a rear Dana 44 from a Scout 2. differnt bolt pattern but you can do it. Way better then a 35.
When you break a Dana 35 axle the shaft walks out and you are dead in the water. YOU CAN NOT DRIVE IT.

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post #70 of 115 Old 02-24-2010, 04:12 PM Thread Starter
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You have to switch to something like a CJ T-case if you use a d-44 from a scout 2 right? I read you cant use the NP231. I could just get a D-35 from an '87-'89 YJ, they did'nt use C-clips. This is my first build up and I dont have much money, but I have people at the moment that are willing to show and help me do the work, so I dont really care how cheap the parts are, I'm just dying to learn how to tear down a jeep and build it back up while I have the chance!
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post #71 of 115 Old 02-24-2010, 04:15 PM Thread Starter
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Plus I'd have to get the D-44 regeared.$$$$$
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post #72 of 115 Old 02-24-2010, 04:22 PM
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I'm telling you, you can use a Scout Dana 44 rear end in a CJ, YJ or XJ
it does not effect the transfer case. The Scout axle is much stronger.
You will need to weld on new Axle pads The Scout Dana 44 rear end uses a
CJ bolt pattern so you will need to wheel spacers to change that. This is a better set up. Or go with A Ford 8.8 But do not drop a dime into a Dana 35.

Or Try looking for a Dana 44 from a XJ hard to find but they are out there.
Snow plow package I think it was.

You may luck out and find the right gears you are lookinf for if not
when you do the gears add a locker.

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post #73 of 115 Old 02-24-2010, 04:26 PM
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In the last ten years I've seen 3 Dana 35's break. That's 3 to many.

Go to Borders Books and pick up The 4wheelers Bible.

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post #74 of 115 Old 02-24-2010, 04:39 PM
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The first time I rebuilt my 86 CJ7 (body)I picked up a 88 YJ (non clip) 3:54 gears I added a 2 1/2 lift 31"s and put a Lock right in the rear end. That worked. As a quick fix. Untill the CJ was back on the road.

This time I'm rebuliding my CJ (frame) I picked up the 05 Rubicon. 285's 2 1/2" lift.

CJ7 258,T18, Scout Dana 300,Dana 30 Front L/S Jeep Dana 44 locker
3:73's 33's 4" lift

This is the norm Min to wheel 2" 2-1/2" lift, 31" tires

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post #75 of 115 Old 02-24-2010, 07:14 PM
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3 times in 10 years, yeah thats horrible. There is nothing wrong with a d35.
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