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Unread 01-12-2011, 11:28 PM   #1
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New York State Off-Road Parks Project

I have only begun to brush the surface of this monumental task. Through the beginnings of my research efforts over the last few months, I have discovered that there are several states West of the Mississippi River that have one or more state owned ORV parks or recreational areas. California for example has 6 such parks they own and operate. However here, east of the Mississippi River, ORV parks are few and far between. The ones that we do have here are privately owned and can get to be expensive due to insurance and liability issues. What I am proposing is a lower cost option for the Northeast USA.

With all the bad press we in the off-road community get due to those among us that fall in the 10% rule, we have fewer and fewer land and trails open and available to us. Let those of us, who are true enthusiasts, band together to petition the State of New York to repurpose some of the state land and reopen them as an ORV/OHV Recreational area. These parks could be multi use parks that allow for all types of OHVs. The scope of the parks would allow our community to safely and responsibility enjoy what we do.

Today’s off-road community member for the most part is nothing like our fore-fathers. We are responsible stewards of the land that we trek on. We are always trying to preserve what we have for future generations to enjoy as well. Let us band together and show the government that we are not the people that lead to the decisions of land and trail closures.

There is a huge unknown (to the gov’t) need for safe, LEGAL, OPEN places for us to enjoy our sport and hobby. By the State of New York opening parks like this, it will be a win-win for everyone. The state government will generate more revenue for their budget and the off-road community will get low cost LEGAL, OPEN places to enjoy taking our vehicles off-road.

Here is the link to the online petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/NYS001DB/petition.html

Thank you to all who view and support this project.

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Unread 01-13-2011, 09:50 AM   #2
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the link isn't working. he ya go
http://www.petitiononline.com/NYS001DB/petition.html

I posted this on facebook too
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Unread 01-13-2011, 11:29 AM   #3
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the link isn't working. he ya go
http://www.petitiononline.com/NYS001DB/petition.html

I posted this on facebook too
Thank you for fixing the link... i did a copy and paste, guess it wasnt exact lol

Fixed it myself too.
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Unread 01-13-2011, 12:19 PM   #4
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Petitions will not work.

If you want to get something like this on the legislative agenda then you need to start talking directly with your state representatives. And get lots of friends to do the same.

There are a number of organizations that are trying to do exactly this. Two of them are:

Northeast Association of 4WD Clubs
Northeast Off-Road Vehicle Alliance

Check them out.
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Unread 01-14-2011, 06:20 AM   #5
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Petitions will not work.

If you want to get something like this on the legislative agenda then you need to start talking directly with your state representatives. And get lots of friends to do the same.

There are a number of organizations that are trying to do exactly this. Two of them are:

Northeast Association of 4WD Clubs
Northeast Off-Road Vehicle Alliance

Check them out.
Thanks for your optimism... no one is forcing you to sign the petition. I still believe that petitions still have some weight, it may not be what it use to, but it is still a way to unite voices. If you consider that I have a total of 10 friends, then I should just give up because 10 voices will never be heard in the legislation.

with out a plethora of facts and a way to show that the state will benefit from this project, they will never hear it. All I am doing is getting the word out, gathering support and getting an idea of how many folks would be using the park system to base the foretasted income off of.

So in short, if i didnt think petitions would work, then I would not have done one. They still work, just because you dont believe they do dont mean they dont. it is because of outlooks like yours that petitions have lost power they once had.
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Unread 01-14-2011, 06:56 PM   #6
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Unread 01-14-2011, 09:18 PM   #7
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I signed it and got a buddy to sign as well.
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Unread 01-19-2011, 05:47 PM   #8
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Don, you know I signed it on the other forum.

So I guess I just wanted to bump your thread and subscribe to it....

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signed but only at 648. wil post to jeep friends and others


i thought there were places in upstate NY to wheel./ i know theirs a spots in the Catskills
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Just wondering where this is at today? We have a Wrangler club in Western New York who is just starting to become very active and also very interested in supporting public land use for four wheeling. Thanks for any updates.
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I have had to put this on the back burnner for a while, and after some recent diving back into it, I have decide to scrap the whole idea and go back to square one. I am currently rebuilding the idea from the gound up as a privatly owned park instead of a state owned one. I am using the petition as a guide as to the number of users for some of the research I am gonna be doing.
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