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post #76 of 692 Old 04-09-2012, 06:45 PM Thread Starter
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It would be great to make it up sometime, it is a pretty good drive from here. Would make for a good weekend trip sometime.
You been making any progress on the wj? Any sneak peak pics?

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post #77 of 692 Old 04-09-2012, 06:56 PM
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no progress to speak of..... about the only thing i have done lately is buy tires for it and cut off all the factory control arm brackets. i am hoping to have it rolling before the end of summer.

there are several great camping spots right off the trails up here, and its free to wheel up here.
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post #78 of 692 Old 04-13-2012, 04:41 PM
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I'm heading to Broken bow the 26th, but I think I'll still try to make it down for the day on the 25th.
do you have any info on the trails in Beavers Bend/ broken bow. my girlfriend and i are going up there to check it out as a possible wedding spot. the way i figure it she gets something she wants and i might as well take advantage of an opportunity to get in some wheeling.
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post #79 of 692 Old 04-13-2012, 04:55 PM Thread Starter
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Trails are everywhere, honestly I just turned on my maps app on my phone and just went. Just about every gas station have or able to make a copy of some of the maps, most maps are intended for atvs but almost all the trails are large enough for jeeps and if you arnt supposed to drive on a road it will have a sign, never did find any great wheeling but lots of rough trails. I would just ask some locals to find the good spots.
A link I found before I went- http://www.lsjc.org/board/showthread...n-Bow-Oklahoma
There are a couple links in that thread that can help some too, we stayed at the cabins linked in that post.
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post #80 of 692 Old 04-13-2012, 08:42 PM Thread Starter
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Mgdwj- I have a question for you.
On the 231 swap, you have to change over the output shafts from the 247 to the 231 and do you have to have a custom rear shaft and sye?
I've had this noise for awhile and think it mabe a bad bearing in the front of my tc.
You care to give a listen and mabe your input?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0H...e_gdata_player
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post #81 of 692 Old 04-13-2012, 09:16 PM
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yes you have to completely disassemble the 247 to get the input shaft out. you will need a set of snap ring pliers. i went with a custom driveshaft and the SYE. if you really wanted to do the swap and not do the custom shaft and SYE i am sure that any drive shaft shop around you would would shorten or lengthen you stock shaft. i personally would go ahead and rebuild the 231 and install a SYE. its fairly simple to do however plan ahead as much as you can for the rear shaft. if need be you can drive around in front wheel drive until you get you shaft from the shop. i would also suggest measure at ride height and at full droop to make sure that there will not be any chance of bottoming out your rear shaft. have you already swapped your front drive shaft to a double cardan shaft? if you want when you get ready give me a call and i will tell you as much as i can about doing the swap. there are a few things that become an issue on the shifting arm if you dont do it right. if you want mail me you shifting arm and i will send you mine. then i will just make me another one from yours.
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post #82 of 692 Old 04-13-2012, 09:29 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks man, I appreciate the help.
Not sure what I'm gunna do yet, the 242hd seems the easiest, but they are expensive and hard to come by. I hear the 231 is pretty dang strong and give you more options for the speedometer if you change axles.
I just really don't want to be on the road and have my 247 grenade on me. Did that link work for you to hear what's going on?
I know I want to swap cases but I was hoping it could happen a little later. Any specific year/years to look for with the 231?
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post #83 of 692 Old 04-13-2012, 09:50 PM
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have you tried pulling your front front drive shaft to try to narrow it down? more than likely the 247 will give you signs before it completely grenades. you have got to use a 96 and up 231 ( i know most 95's will work but just to be safe) i got mine out of a 98 wrangler. i think that a non Rubicon 241 will work ( not the rock trac 4.1 low, i will do some more checking on this) and with that you get the 6 planatery gears wider chain and a factory SYE. only down fall is it have no speedo on tail housing. which if you do the bolt in dana 60 from eastcoast gear supply that doesnt matter. the jk 241 can be had for about $40 to $80 more than just the SYE.
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post #84 of 692 Old 04-13-2012, 10:09 PM Thread Starter
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When I pull the front shaft most noise will disappear but still have a faint matching sound, what signs would I be looking for? 4x4 has been working good, tc will kick out of 4lo every once in awhile.
I haven't heard of swapping a 241, sounds pretty good. they come in the jk? and what does it take for that swap? I'll start calling around to some salvage yards and see what I can come up with.


Edit- the yoke has a tight spot in it when I turn by hand with front shaft out and tc in neutral, not sure if that's normal. Kinda what got me to thinking its a bearing.
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post #85 of 692 Old 04-14-2012, 08:28 PM Thread Starter
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mgdwj- Checked out my yoke again today and it has allot of slop in it, even up and down movement. Don't think that's normal.
Also been looking into the 241 swap, found lots of people thinking of doing it, but have not found anything on one actually been done. I'll keep searching
I might just do the 231 if I find one for the right price, mabe I can luck out and find one with a sye already installed.
Who did you get your rear shaft from? My front came from tom woods.
Thanks again for all the help and info.


Deanswings- you guys still thinking of going to Tolar soon?
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post #86 of 692 Old 04-14-2012, 08:36 PM
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my friend has a 241 for sale. its out of a 2011 and has about 11,000 miles, and i can probably save you shipping. i had my rear shaft built in Amarillo at a local shop. the only other thing you will need is another yoke for the tcase. the one on you 231 will fit. ill call my buddy tomorrow and see how much/ availability of the case. i am 90% sure that it will work with the input shaft out of your 247 because its pretty much a beefier version of the 231. as far as the case halves are concerned they are almost identical.
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post #87 of 692 Old 04-14-2012, 09:21 PM Thread Starter
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Please do, what's it out of?
We have no driveline shops here that do drive shafts. Closest is in Dallas.
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Deanswings- you guys still thinking of going to Tolar soon?
Yea, we were gonna go yesterday but I have to catch a flight to Indianapolis this morning and didn't wanna risk breaking out there and not being able to make it home.

We were talking about the weekend after next to try again

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post #89 of 692 Old 04-15-2012, 06:13 AM
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It is out of a 2011 jk X. He said he wants 3-400 for it. Every drive shaft shop will take and order over the phone. They will even explain how to measure for the shaft.
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As it currently stands I will be taking the Cj out next Sunday If yall want to meet up in tolar or Bridgeport. It is a 5 min difference for me as far as the drive goes

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