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Unread 07-29-2013, 07:04 PM   #586
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I've gone out there a bunch of times by myself, I'm not afraid to go out there alone because I never try any obstacle that I am not 100% sure I can make without issue. I've got a cabin in the rawhide mountain range (Uvalde) which has a couple miles of level 1-2 trail to get to it, so I was used to crawling alone before I ever went to Hidden Falls.

That said anytime I'm out there I will hook up with any other Jeep that's wheeling that's around the same level of modifications/trail level as mine. It is a good idea to go with a buddy, but I have fun going out by myself sometimes. I've been out to Hidden Falls probably 6 times now, its a fun place I just wish that I was able to tackle more of the trails out there.

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Unread 08-03-2013, 04:36 PM   #587
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Unread 08-04-2013, 03:32 AM   #588
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Went out there yesterday for a few hours in my 2000 Wrangler. I forgot how capable it was after only wheeling in the Rubicon for a while now. In all honesty I find it much more enjoyable wheeling in the 2000 since its a 2.5l 5-speed and factory axles, much more challenging going through obstacles. I actually have to pay more attention to the lines I take and have to keep some speed going into the rough stuff to actually make it through with the open diffs. I'm going to be selling the Rubicon soon (for cheap actually, anyone want a 2012 2 door Rubi with 15,000 miles on it for like 25-27k?) and am looking forward to putting a lift on the Wrangler, and probably upgrade the factory 30/35 and regear it to a 4.56 or 4.88 depending on if I want to go 35's instead of the 33's I currently have.

Just a warning to everyone, the air compressor is STILL broken. They didn't have a sign at the check in window OR bother to mention it to me when I got there and ended up having to drive several miles down 1431 into Marble Falls with my 33x12.5r15 ProComp Xterrains aired down to 12psi! The Jeep sure rode smooth with that air pressure going down the road though haha, reminded me of my friends 1976 Monte Carlo. Hopefully they get their compressor back up and running soon, its BS to pay full price to go wheeling when they have a major issue (a lot of guys drive their rigs out there, and don't want to tear their tires/suspension up running at full air pressure).
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Unread 08-08-2013, 04:45 PM   #589
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Recently discovered this place and am planning on getting a 4 door rubicon later this year. Just trying to research what I need. Want to run max 35" tires and want to see what type of lift yall would suggest that would handle some decent stuff out there. This would be be a dd but want to be able to hit some decent trails out there every couple months. Is a 2.5 BB enough or do I need a little better. It looks like it can be pretty hardcore out there. Just wanted to see what people are actually running

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Unread 08-08-2013, 05:34 PM   #590
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Recently discovered this place and am planning on getting a 4 door rubicon later this year. Just trying to research what I need. Want to run max 35" tires and want to see what type of lift yall would suggest that would handle some decent stuff out there. This would be be a dd but want to be able to hit some decent trails out there every couple months. Is a 2.5 BB enough or do I need a little better. It looks like it can be pretty hardcore out there. Just wanted to see what people are actually running

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Check out our profiles. It'll tell ya who's running what.

I'm on a 4" Zone offroad lift. I would recommend them in a heartbeat.
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Unread 08-08-2013, 06:21 PM   #591
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Check out our profiles. It'll tell ya who's running what.

I'm on a 4" Zone offload lift. I would recommend them in a heartbeat.
I agree. 2.5" is not enough on a 4 door.
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Unread 08-08-2013, 07:24 PM   #592
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Recently discovered this place and am planning on getting a 4 door rubicon later this year. Just trying to research what I need. Want to run max 35" tires and want to see what type of lift yall would suggest that would handle some decent stuff out there. This would be be a dd but want to be able to hit some decent trails out there every couple months. Is a 2.5 BB enough or do I need a little better. It looks like it can be pretty hardcore out there. Just wanted to see what people are actually running

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In a factory Rubicon you will be able to make it through basically all the level 3 trails out there with relative ease. I'd go out there and crawl around on some trails, then decide what route you want to take it (2.5" lift, or something crazier like a 5.5" long arm).

Worst case scenario you might clip your rear bumper/exhaust very slightly on some rocks, or kiss a skid plate on a rock. You'd be surprised how well any factory Jeep will do out there.
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Unread 08-08-2013, 08:01 PM   #593
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Agreed! 2 door vs. unlimited will have different challenges. It's totally worth driving it and seeing what it can do vs what you want to do.

I'm just a little "bigger" than stock. Have Hanson off road bumpers, winch, Bushwacker flat fenders, 1.5" leveling in front, 33s.

I've done nearly ever 3 and several 4s out there I think.

I love the look of 35s on the unlimited and hope to squeeze some in -- no lift. All I need is to cut my pinch seam and rock rails and add a 1" bumpstop extension (I think!)

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Unread 08-08-2013, 10:28 PM   #594
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So I guess what I want to confirm is I want 35" tires for the look. I want a jeep that can do some cool stuff. I dont need to do some crazy stuff like climb shear cliffs. So a 2.5" BB will allow me to run 35" tires, to have some good fun out at a place like hidden falls the half dozen times s year I might go. And all this with minimal modifications.

Am I correct in thinking this route is basically stock suspension with bigger tires. In other words taking a very capable stock rubicon and giving it a little better ground clearance

Sounds like from the previous post that with these expectations I should be happy with the choice.

Seaching the site it is hard to figure out how far to go on suspension. There is such a wide array of offroad types and peoples views of what is "enough" I ask here because there seems to be expierenced group of jeepers that wheel in probably the most extreme place that I will visit

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So I guess what I want to confirm is I want 35" tires for the look. I want a jeep that can do some cool stuff. I dont need to do some crazy stuff like climb shear cliffs. So a 2.5" BB will allow me to run 35" tires, to have some good fun out at a place like hidden falls the half dozen times s year I might go. And all this with minimal modifications.

Am I correct in thinking this route is basically stock suspension with bigger tires. In other words taking a very capable stock rubicon and giving it a little better ground clearance

Sounds like from the previous post that with these expectations I should be happy with the choice.

Seaching the site it is hard to figure out how far to go on suspension. There is such a wide array of offroad types and peoples views of what is "enough" I ask here because there seems to be expierenced group of jeepers that wheel in probably the most extreme place that I will visit

Thanks again for your help.
Agreed, the 35s will probably fit under there with a BB, BUT......

There will be no room for movement/tucking/flexing on the trails. You'll be going home with your fenders in the trunk. And possibly be rubbing the inner fender wells due to lack of room. I'm in a 97 TJ, but have marks on my 35" tire tread from where they have hit in the rear of the tub. And that's with 5.25" of lift. (4" suspension/1.25" body)
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Unread 08-09-2013, 12:50 PM   #596
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Owning a JKU and running a 2.5" lift and 35's, it's not enough. Winners was right, I popped off my rear fenders on the trail due to flex and no room for tires. You should plan for 4" minimum if you want 35's.
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Owning a JKU and running a 2.5" lift and 35's, it's not enough. Winners was right, I popped off my rear fenders on the trail due to flex and no room for tires. You should plan for 4" minimum if you want 35's.
Thanks for the replies

I realize they will limit flex, but want bump stops prevent you from ripping out the fenders? Do they work in the real world?

I know what is the best anwser. Just trying to determine benefit vs risk vs cost
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Thanks for the replies

I realize they will limit flex, but want bump stops prevent you from ripping out the fenders? Do they work in the real world?

I know what is the best anwser. Just trying to determine benefit vs risk vs cost
Bump stops work as advertised. If you look at my profile, I have some photos with my maroon jk on 35's with the 2.5" lift. I only had about 3" of clearance between tires and fenders so your bumps need to be pretty close together. My recommendation would be once you have both the lift and tires to flex it out and then measure for correct bumps.
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Bump stops work as advertised. If you look at my profile, I have some photos with my maroon jk on 35's with the 2.5" lift. I only had about 3" of clearance between tires and fenders so your bumps need to be pretty close together. My recommendation would be once you have both the lift and tires to flex it out and then measure for correct bumps.
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By all means a BB would work for the road, but will DRASTICALLY limit your capabilities on the trails. Won't take long until you're rubbing all kinda of stuff. I think we had to pull JCArnold's fenders within 10min of trail riding when we went that day. Literally, 50yards into first trail.
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Like the others said running 35's with anything under a 4" lift will hit the fenders when you off-road. The 2 or 2.5" BB will have the tires rubbing the fender so badly when you flex it out, that you very likely can tear the fender straight off.

I had 285/70/17 (33x11) BFGoodrich KM2's on my 2012 2dr Rubicon with 1.5" Spidertrax wheel spacers and a 1 3/4" Daystar coil spring spacer lift. At full flex I would be able to get the passenger side (never got the driver side for some reason) front tire to rub the fender pretty good when I had the sway bar disconnected. I never drove it around with the sway bar connected out at Hidden Falls so I'm not sure if that would have helped much, but there's ZERO point to have a Rubicon and not use the factory electronic sway bar disconnect and lockers when you go rock crawling.
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