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Unread 10-26-2012, 06:14 AM   #436
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Yeah, that was definitely a classy move.. Nothing like duplicity and trying to stroke yourself to prove you're in the right.. *cough* Aaanyway - I didn't go create an FJ account, but you can pass the word back that there are at least some Jeepers who'd band together with you goofy Toy drivers ( ) in this...

Makes me wonder why he's ex-NASA.. maybe he couldn't grasp the importance (or the concepts) of maintenance, responsibility, accountability, and interpersonal relations.. Aaahh well. I can't throw too many stones. I've stepped in it a few times too. Never in front of thousands of people, or quite so aggressively, for so long, but still..

Canyons is 110 miles to HF's 60 miles from me, and is the closest alternative. Might not go wheeling as much as I thought.

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...you never, ever, skimp on suspension and tires as they will save your *** when you do something stupid - and .. you *will* do something stupid.
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Rock crawling is a whole 'nother animal. To me, the off-camber low rpm negotiation of lines provides a different type of adrenaline than plowing through mud. It's terrifying at times, but the pride of looking back at what you just climbed over is what is addictive.
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Unread 10-26-2012, 09:42 AM   #437
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wow, that is a nice little fight going on. I know some of the park rangers and will talk to them about this to see if they know why it got that bad. We're still going there this weekend and we'll be sure to take pics of any damage to any trail before and after we pass. It's sad that it has to come to this but you almost need a few gopros mounted up to have real proof in case something like this happens again
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Unread 10-26-2012, 09:56 AM   #438
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I have a few big tired guys and a few small - i have no idea what we trails we are looking at. I have a black YJ on 37's towed with a green and tan f250.
reply or PM me with your name, that way I can feel a little more friendly if we meet up, it's beats the 'ol "hey I know you" thing.

I'm Travis

EDIT: never mind I just looked at your profile. See you out there
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Unread 10-26-2012, 10:02 AM   #439
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At one point he threatened to sic his "rangers" on some of the FJ guys.. It was like reading some petty 15 yr old trying to out-mouth everyone on the forum. Disheartening to read.

And apparently they also have some remote cameras mounted in trees to take photos.. So yeah - I guess taking before and after on anything dubious might not be a bad idea.

FJ guys posted up videos and photos of several Jeeps hitting that same section of fence over the last two years, and HF has stated they're going after them now as well.. Would be nice for them to collect from 5-6 drivers for the same section of fence.. And then not fix it - as they haven't fixed it in the past 4 yrs.. Oh wait, that would be fraud, wouldn't it?

apparently no one over there has ever heard of internet searching, since they claimed they'd never seen any images of anyone hitting the fence before the one they took of the FJ against the fence past the destroyed sections..

In some posts they claim the FJ caused all the damage.. In other posts they state they know the damage was pre-existing, but since they have him on film they're holding him accountable anyway since no one else stepped up to report damage in the past.. Sellers told 3 or 4 different versions of events before they shut down the thread.
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...you never, ever, skimp on suspension and tires as they will save your *** when you do something stupid - and .. you *will* do something stupid.
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Rock crawling is a whole 'nother animal. To me, the off-camber low rpm negotiation of lines provides a different type of adrenaline than plowing through mud. It's terrifying at times, but the pride of looking back at what you just climbed over is what is addictive.
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Unread 10-26-2012, 11:49 AM   #440
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Canyons is 110 miles to HF's 60 miles from me, and is the closest alternative. Might not go wheeling as much as I thought.
It's a little longer drive, but I'd be interested in going to Canyons. Never been. Always worth a shot.
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Unread 10-26-2012, 06:53 PM   #441
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When would you all be going to Canyons?
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Unread 10-26-2012, 07:02 PM   #442
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Hey, man... thought you had class tonight.. pay attention
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...you never, ever, skimp on suspension and tires as they will save your *** when you do something stupid - and .. you *will* do something stupid.
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Rock crawling is a whole 'nother animal. To me, the off-camber low rpm negotiation of lines provides a different type of adrenaline than plowing through mud. It's terrifying at times, but the pride of looking back at what you just climbed over is what is addictive.
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Unread 10-26-2012, 07:11 PM   #443
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LOL I'm trying to stay awake. Got my new tires installed this afternoon and still need to install my passenger side rock slider.
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Unread 10-26-2012, 08:16 PM   #444
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LOL I'm trying to stay awake. Got my new tires installed this afternoon and still need to install my passenger side rock slider.
Just hug the left side of the trail, you'll be good!









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Unread 10-27-2012, 02:41 PM   #445
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My speculation on it would be that the neighboring land owner might own that section of fence and is after the HF owner to fix it. So, instead of ponying up he is trying to pass the expense on to this guy. Its complete BS as that fence has been torn up since my first trip out there in March. If they don't want people in the fence, then they need to close that section of the trail and make you take the by pass. Most people choose the line that is next to the fence. If you don't make it up in one shot, you pretty much have to back into the fence. Best part of it all, is they claim to be a "christian" business then the owner acts like that.

With all that said, I am up to go to Canyons sometime. I will still go to HF since it's so close, but I'm not going to be running that section of North Pole.
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Unread 10-27-2012, 02:46 PM   #446
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With all that said, I am up to go to Canyons sometime. I will still go to HF since it's so close, but I'm not going to be running that section of North Pole.
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Unread 10-27-2012, 02:50 PM   #447
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Well i just looked at their facebook page, it says the have closed sections of North Pole due to fence damage and roll over hazards. Please take the bypass and do not destroy the yellow tape.

Since when do they care about roll overs?
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Unread 10-27-2012, 06:09 PM   #448
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Bama - Sellers was very clear that the owner on the other side had no interest in the fence, had refused to put any money into it, and thus it was solely HF's fence and property.
And yeah - they have closed it now - as part of the argument that it was closed before (they just hadn't put up tape, made announcements, or marked it as such on the maps or info board).. Another one of their BS moves, but anyway..

Yeah - the whole christian company thing came out - right after one of Sellers' worst rant/diatribe posts someone pasted their Company Mission statement from the website with all the christian virtues and behaviors they were upholding and representing. It was almost sad how far away from any of them the post was that warranted the repeating of their Mission statement.
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...you never, ever, skimp on suspension and tires as they will save your *** when you do something stupid - and .. you *will* do something stupid.
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Rock crawling is a whole 'nother animal. To me, the off-camber low rpm negotiation of lines provides a different type of adrenaline than plowing through mud. It's terrifying at times, but the pride of looking back at what you just climbed over is what is addictive.
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Unread 10-27-2012, 06:22 PM   #449
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so i looked up some video of North Pole and thats considered a trail now? I thought it was just ranch road
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Unread 10-27-2012, 06:30 PM   #450
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I believe it had been for a while.. They didn't maintain it. now it has some 3+ sections and at least two places that are off camber enough to roll you if you make a mistake..
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...you never, ever, skimp on suspension and tires as they will save your *** when you do something stupid - and .. you *will* do something stupid.
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Rock crawling is a whole 'nother animal. To me, the off-camber low rpm negotiation of lines provides a different type of adrenaline than plowing through mud. It's terrifying at times, but the pride of looking back at what you just climbed over is what is addictive.
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