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Unread 01-28-2013, 01:56 PM   #1
COsahara
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2002 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 12
Tj Welcome a brother? New Jeep Owner

Just wanted to say hello and glad to finally be a Jeep owner. My dad had a few growing up and I have always wanted one but waited to scratch that itch, now that wait is over...

I found a fully loaded (D44/3.73/both tops) 2002 one owner Sienna Red Pearl Sahara with 70k on it and pulled the trigger a couple weeks ago. It's unbelievably clean and was obviously a garage queen it's entire life. I could not believe how mint it was underneath. Pic and build sheet below (since you guys are into that, right?).

I looked quite a bit around the site for a beginner thread but couldn't find exactly what I was looking for. Hopefully you guys wouldn't mind helping me out with a few questions:

- Is there a consensus well rounded lift kit for DD and light to medium trail duty? I am looking to run 33s with a 3-4 suspension lift (no body preferably)?

- Should I order a kit online and depend on the beer/pizza/cash route of my newfound friends or should I go the shop route? I am pretty much a baby when it comes to wrenching so would want a respected forum member or a reputable shop. Any shop suggestions?

- Tires/Rims: I have canyon rims but rarely see a lifted Jeep on factory anything. Could I rock these with 33s if I wanted to? Is there a consensus wheel/tire combo for 33s? I have always been a BFG A/T whore, should I consider something else? My color is a bit odd, not sure the trendy black would look too good, any suggestions? Would like to keep body stock.

- Do I need to worry about theft on suspension/tires/wheels in Denver? She will be outside overnight on occasion and just curious if this is a problem.

Budget for everything I would like to keep under $2k.

Apologize in advance for the exhaustive amount of questions, basically looking for a "33 starter kit".

Thanks and looking forward to chatting and meeting some of you and most of all hitting some trails!

Build Sheet:

According to our records, your vehicle was equipped from the factory
with the following:

Sales Code Description
*M5 Cloth High-Back Bucket Seats
-KG Camel/Dk Green
AACS Convenience Group I
AASS Tire & Wheel Group - 30"
ADCS Convenience Group
AEM Dual Top Group
APAS Monotone Paint
A68P 4.0L Eng(ERH)/5Spd M/T Nv3550(DDD)
BAUS 117 Amp Alternator
BCDS 500 Amp Maintenance Free Battery
BGAS Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes
CADP High Back Bucket Seats
CAGP Easy Access Passenger Seat
CDBS Reclining Front Seats
CFMS Rear Folding Seat
CGWS Next Generation Front Air Bags**
CGZS Passenger Air Bag On/Off Switch
CKES Front Seat Area Carpet
CKFP Rear Seat/Wheelhouse/Cargo Carpet
CKTS Cargo Tie Down Loops
CLCS Front Floor Mats
CLSS Sport Bar w/Rear Padding
CUFP Full Length Floor Console
DBBC All Manual Transmissions
DDD 5-Speed HD Manual Transmission
DHNS Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System
DJJS Dana 30/186MM Front Axle
DMEP 3.73 Rear Axle Ratio
DRKP Dana 44/226MM Rear Axle
ERH 4.0L I6 Power Tech Engine
GBBS Tinted Windshield Glass
GCBP Front Door Tinted Glass
GCDP Deep Tint Sunscreen Windows
GCFS Full Metal Doors w/Roll-up Windows
GFAP Rear Window Defroster
GRVP Left Manual Mirror
GSVP Right Manual Mirror
GTVS Swing-Away Mirrors
GXXS Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System
HAAS Air Conditioning
I89S Route 89 - CSX, Selkirk, NY
JAYS Instrument Cluster w/Tach
JCDS 100 MPH Primary Speedometer
JHAS Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers
JHBP Rear Window Wiper/Washer
JJAS Cigar Lighter
JJFS Single Low Note Horn
JKAS Locking Glove Box
JKC Add-A-Trunk Lockable Storage
KBTS STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
KWPS STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
KXPS STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
K5US STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
LAPP Shift Indicator Warning Lamp
LBBP Courtesy Lamps
LDAP Underhood Lamp
LMAS Halogen Headlamps
LNJS Fog Lamps
LPSS CHMSL Lamp
MBAS Painted Front Bumper
MB5S Black Rear Bumper
MCHS Gloss Black Fascia Applique
MFPS Chrome Headlamp Bezels
MFRS Black Front Frame Overlay
MFTS Body Color Grille
MRJS Bodyside Side Steps
MWBS Sport Bar w/Side Padding
NAS 50 State Emissions
NBKS EVAP Control System
NBVP Low Emission Vehicle (LEV)
NF1S 19 Gallon Fuel Tank
NHMS Speed Control
PU7A Sienna Pearl Coat
QU7S Sienna Pearl Coat
RAAC All Radio Equipped Vehicles
RBRS AM/FM Compact Disc Radio
RCUS 7 Speakers Inc Subwoofer/Tweeters
RDDP Fixed Long Mast Antenna
SBAS Power Rack and Pinion Steering
SCGS Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel
SDUP Heavy Duty Suspension w/Gas Shocks
SHAS Front Stabilizer Bar
SHCS Front and Rear Stabilizer Bars
SUAP Tilt Steering Column
TBBS Full Size Spare Tire
TBRS Outside Tire Carrier
TUSP 30X9.50R15LTB Wrangler OWL A/T Tires
TZAP Goodyear Brand Tires
VJTP Dark Tan Soft Top
VKTA Mango Tango 3-Piece Hard Top
WJXP 15X8.0 "CANYON" Aluminum Wheels
WKBP Matching Spare Wheel
WLZC All Aluminum Wheels
XCYS Delete Remote Start System
XEES Fuel Tank Skid Plate Shield
XEFS Transfer Case Skid Plate Shield
XEWS 2 Front & 1 Rear Tow Hooks
XJFS Tethered Fuel Filler Cap
XPFS Protective Coating and Remover
YAAS Build To U.S. Mkt. Specifications


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Unread 01-30-2013, 08:04 PM   #2
Yams
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2000 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado
Posts: 329
That jeep looks nice.... just the way it is.
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Unread 01-31-2013, 09:11 AM   #3
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2000 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 3,101
Welcome aboard! Nice looking Jeep!

I don't want to overwhelm, but there's a LOT of different lift kits out there, so picking one really comes down to budget contstraints and overall plan of the rig. If you plan on going bigger down the line (which not many people PLAN on it, but it still ends up happening a lot), you may want to look at a kit that will be able to be modified/pieced together to work with later plans. If not, there are a lot of good kits out there: just a matter of finding what works for you. I would recommend a kit that has at least one end that has some type of flexible joint (ie: johnny joint), rather than both ends being a fixed bushing. With both ends having a fixed bushing, it stresses out the mounts, and can cause them to tear off (ask me how I know).

As far as the tires, I'm not fully aware on those. I think that they can be run with a 33" tire, but most people run wheel spacers with them (if I remember correctly). I don't know what the width of those wheels are, but if you're looking into new wheels, you'll want about an 8" width for 12.50 width 33's.

As far as install, definitely hold a lift party. Buy pizza, beverages & have some people over to put it on with you. Not only will it save you a ton of money, but it'll help you get more familiar with the vehicle. TJ's are really easy to lift anyway.

I've not seen a lot of thefts with parts off of Jeeps, but it's always a good idea to do what you can to minimize it. Wheel locks, alarms, etc. will help, but as I'm sure you know - if they want it, they're gonna get it. I park mine in the garage (well, it's got no suspension in it, so it has to be in the garage anyway), but I wouldn't be too woried about it in my area as far as parts thefts, but there's always someone out there that thinks they have the right to what you worked hard for.
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Unread 01-31-2013, 02:18 PM   #4
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Welcome. Decide on a tire size and go from there. Get the most quality parts your budget can afford. I ran 33's for about 6 years on my old jeep and it's great tire size for exploring moderate trails and camping. Unless you want to get into big rocks there is no need to go bigger. I say install the lift yourself as stated above it's not tough, I've helped 3 buddies lift there TJ's this year and all of them took less than 8 hours.
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Unread 02-01-2013, 08:19 AM   #5
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Welcome to the jeep world. This forum is great but since you have a wrangler I would suggest wranglerforum.com. it is way more populated. Hope to see you there.
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Unread 02-01-2013, 08:40 AM   #6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by COsahara View Post
Just wanted to say hello and glad to finally be a Jeep owner. My dad had a few growing up and I have always wanted one but waited to scratch that itch, now that wait is over...

I found a fully loaded (D44/3.73/both tops) 2002 one owner Sienna Red Pearl Sahara with 70k on it and pulled the trigger a couple weeks ago. It's unbelievably clean and was obviously a garage queen it's entire life. I could not believe how mint it was underneath. Pic and build sheet below (since you guys are into that, right?).

I looked quite a bit around the site for a beginner thread but couldn't find exactly what I was looking for. Hopefully you guys wouldn't mind helping me out with a few questions:

- Is there a consensus well rounded lift kit for DD and light to medium trail duty? I am looking to run 33s with a 3-4 suspension lift (no body preferably)?

- Should I order a kit online and depend on the beer/pizza/cash route of my newfound friends or should I go the shop route? I am pretty much a baby when it comes to wrenching so would want a respected forum member or a reputable shop. Any shop suggestions?

- Tires/Rims: I have canyon rims but rarely see a lifted Jeep on factory anything. Could I rock these with 33s if I wanted to? Is there a consensus wheel/tire combo for 33s? I have always been a BFG A/T whore, should I consider something else? My color is a bit odd, not sure the trendy black would look too good, any suggestions? Would like to keep body stock.

- Do I need to worry about theft on suspension/tires/wheels in Denver? She will be outside overnight on occasion and just curious if this is a problem.

Budget for everything I would like to keep under $2k.

Apologize in advance for the exhaustive amount of questions, basically looking for a "33 starter kit".

Thanks and looking forward to chatting and meeting some of you and most of all hitting some trails!

Build Sheet:

According to our records, your vehicle was equipped from the factory
with the following:

Sales Code Description
*M5 Cloth High-Back Bucket Seats
-KG Camel/Dk Green
AACS Convenience Group I
AASS Tire & Wheel Group - 30"
ADCS Convenience Group
AEM Dual Top Group
APAS Monotone Paint
A68P 4.0L Eng(ERH)/5Spd M/T Nv3550(DDD)
BAUS 117 Amp Alternator
BCDS 500 Amp Maintenance Free Battery
BGAS Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes
CADP High Back Bucket Seats
CAGP Easy Access Passenger Seat
CDBS Reclining Front Seats
CFMS Rear Folding Seat
CGWS Next Generation Front Air Bags**
CGZS Passenger Air Bag On/Off Switch
CKES Front Seat Area Carpet
CKFP Rear Seat/Wheelhouse/Cargo Carpet
CKTS Cargo Tie Down Loops
CLCS Front Floor Mats
CLSS Sport Bar w/Rear Padding
CUFP Full Length Floor Console
DBBC All Manual Transmissions
DDD 5-Speed HD Manual Transmission
DHNS Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System
DJJS Dana 30/186MM Front Axle
DMEP 3.73 Rear Axle Ratio
DRKP Dana 44/226MM Rear Axle
ERH 4.0L I6 Power Tech Engine
GBBS Tinted Windshield Glass
GCBP Front Door Tinted Glass
GCDP Deep Tint Sunscreen Windows
GCFS Full Metal Doors w/Roll-up Windows
GFAP Rear Window Defroster
GRVP Left Manual Mirror
GSVP Right Manual Mirror
GTVS Swing-Away Mirrors
GXXS Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System
HAAS Air Conditioning
I89S Route 89 - CSX, Selkirk, NY
JAYS Instrument Cluster w/Tach
JCDS 100 MPH Primary Speedometer
JHAS Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers
JHBP Rear Window Wiper/Washer
JJAS Cigar Lighter
JJFS Single Low Note Horn
JKAS Locking Glove Box
JKC Add-A-Trunk Lockable Storage
KBTS STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
KWPS STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
KXPS STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
K5US STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
LAPP Shift Indicator Warning Lamp
LBBP Courtesy Lamps
LDAP Underhood Lamp
LMAS Halogen Headlamps
LNJS Fog Lamps
LPSS CHMSL Lamp
MBAS Painted Front Bumper
MB5S Black Rear Bumper
MCHS Gloss Black Fascia Applique
MFPS Chrome Headlamp Bezels
MFRS Black Front Frame Overlay
MFTS Body Color Grille
MRJS Bodyside Side Steps
MWBS Sport Bar w/Side Padding
NAS 50 State Emissions
NBKS EVAP Control System
NBVP Low Emission Vehicle (LEV)
NF1S 19 Gallon Fuel Tank
NHMS Speed Control
PU7A Sienna Pearl Coat
QU7S Sienna Pearl Coat
RAAC All Radio Equipped Vehicles
RBRS AM/FM Compact Disc Radio
RCUS 7 Speakers Inc Subwoofer/Tweeters
RDDP Fixed Long Mast Antenna
SBAS Power Rack and Pinion Steering
SCGS Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel
SDUP Heavy Duty Suspension w/Gas Shocks
SHAS Front Stabilizer Bar
SHCS Front and Rear Stabilizer Bars
SUAP Tilt Steering Column
TBBS Full Size Spare Tire
TBRS Outside Tire Carrier
TUSP 30X9.50R15LTB Wrangler OWL A/T Tires
TZAP Goodyear Brand Tires
VJTP Dark Tan Soft Top
VKTA Mango Tango 3-Piece Hard Top
WJXP 15X8.0 "CANYON" Aluminum Wheels
WKBP Matching Spare Wheel
WLZC All Aluminum Wheels
XCYS Delete Remote Start System
XEES Fuel Tank Skid Plate Shield
XEFS Transfer Case Skid Plate Shield
XEWS 2 Front & 1 Rear Tow Hooks
XJFS Tethered Fuel Filler Cap
XPFS Protective Coating and Remover
YAAS Build To U.S. Mkt. Specifications
Nice Jeep!
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Unread 02-02-2013, 11:35 AM   #7
COsahara
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2002 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 12
Thanks for the welcome people. I went and visited Rokmen this week and chatted with Jeff who is great by the way. I am probably just going to run stock, plus it looks like the previous owner at least swapped the shocks/springs so there is 31s on it now with quite a bit of room.

I'll probably run through the Grabber A/Ts that are on there and see how it treats me this summer.

Thanks again and look forward to joining the community,
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Unread 02-08-2013, 09:34 PM   #8
Ironturtle84
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2002 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Broomfield, Colorado
Posts: 34
just do a simple 2in bb and 1.25 body lift. Plenty of romm for 33s, rides pretty much like stock, and can be done for under 300 with shock extenders. I am in denver if you want help installing, can do it in about 5hrs. Pm me and let me know. Also I am an ase certified auto tech and work at a reputable shop in broomfield
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