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Unread 08-12-2013, 12:23 PM   #16
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Post those pics!

I went up to the Wild Irishmen Mine just yesterday and encountered a clear trail. Wanted to do the full Saints John - Swan River - Deer Creek loop, but it was getting late by the time we got to the top, plus we only had 1 vehicle, and you could see the storms brewing.

Some pics of the trip: http://s338.photobucket.com/user/whi...?sort=3&page=1

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Unread 08-12-2013, 02:07 PM   #17
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Post those pics!
My puter's toast right now - don't have a way to post them or believe me I would. I'm lurking and posting on my android app which blows compared to the real deal.
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Unread 08-12-2013, 08:02 PM   #18
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Ok - I was able to hijack a laptop and cut and paste these from another post:

Radical Hill:





Saints John:





Webster Pass:





Handcart Gulch:





Red Cone:





These merely scratch the surface of the rest of the pictures we took.

Trully is an amazing place to be. Last year we did Chihuahua, Santa Fe, Deer Creek/Saints John, and Keystone. This year the trails we ran were even better. We repeated Keystone Gulch but otherwise Handcart/Red Cone was definately one of the coolest trail loops to put under our belts as far as challenges and scenery. Little Rascal Hill was not little, the descent was not as severe as anticipated - still awesome though. The ledge on Handcart was much norrower than Radical, but Radical was quite the trail. Middle/North Forks of Swan was a great loop to do our last day.
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Unread 08-13-2013, 02:37 PM   #19
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Great pics. What day and time of the day did you go? Looks like you had beautiful weather/conditions.

Also, how would you rank the trails as far as views? I have a 2012 Grand Cherokee, and that ridge on Radical Hill looks a bit tight. I wish the weather would have cooperated the other day, as we were so very close to getting to the top of Saints John.
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Unread 08-13-2013, 03:46 PM   #20
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Great pics. What day and time of the day did you go? Looks like you had beautiful weather/conditions.

Also, how would you rank the trails as far as views? I have a 2012 Grand Cherokee, and that ridge on Radical Hill looks a bit tight. I wish the weather would have cooperated the other day, as we were so very close to getting to the top of Saints John.
We got into Keystone about noon on Wednesday the 31st and ran Keystone Gulch that afternoon. Thrs morning we were on the trail (Webster/Radical/StsJohn) by 0830. Fri same time for Webster/Handcart/RedCone. Sat same time for DeerCreek/Middle/North forks of Swan. Coming down the switchbacks into Montezuma from the tail end of StsJohn on Thrs we got light rain but by the time we headed back to Keystone village out of Montezuma it was dry - that was the only time we got rained on. The day we did Red Cone was a gorgeous weather day. Saturday got cloudy by afternoon but we were already off the mountains drinking margaritas in our condo.

We may be flatlanders but we know to get on the trails early, especially if headed above timberline - gets you you back off the mountains by afternoon.

The views on all the trails in the area are incredible - I really don't know I could fairly rate them.

Oh, and yes Radical is steep, rocky, tight in some places, tight and off camber in other places, rocky and tight in others, well you get the idea ;-) Very cool trail with oustanding views of the switchbacks going up Webster, as well as the descent of Red Cone, and viseversa.

Btw - Handcart has a couple spots coming down the ledge switchbacks that were tighter than Radical. Red Cone is very rocky most the way through.

The initial descent down Middle Fork is very steep and a good challenge. North Fork is all up hill right after you cross the Swan - not much switchback just pure climb.
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Unread 08-17-2013, 05:48 PM   #21
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Oh man, that is all the pics you have or Radical Hill! I love to hate that trail. Those switch backs on the climb that are off camber to the cliff give you major pucker factor! It is a sporty trail for sure.

Did you hit SOB hill or Wheeler Lake? If not, come back, I will wheel with ya and hit em'
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Unread 08-17-2013, 07:44 PM   #22
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Oh man, that is all the pics you have or Radical Hill! I love to hate that trail. Those switch backs on the climb that are off camber to the cliff give you major pucker factor! It is a sporty trail for sure.

Did you hit SOB hill or Wheeler Lake? If not, come back, I will wheel with ya and hit em'
No no no........we have around 600 some photos between all of us for the whole trip. Including many more of Radical. But I'm waiting for my computer to get fixed so I can put together a more comprehensive trip report.

Yes the tippy ledges are fun - my wife did not like them. Especially the last tippy section that puts you off camber to the passenger side just before coming around to the long ledge climb. That trail is great!

Have not done SOB Hill or Wheeler but we'd love to come back and wheel the area with a big group.
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Unread 08-17-2013, 09:20 PM   #23
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Send me a PM if you are ever back in the area! Get the tour from a local.
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^^^ Will do.



Here's an updated post from my build thread.

TONS of pictures of the trip in several albums:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f67/m...l#post15837014
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