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Unread 12-19-2006, 10:50 AM   #1
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CTP (Colorado Trail Patrol)

For those that don't know Val (YJgirl from colorado4x4.org) is our savior when it comes to keeping Colorado trails open. She also heads up the CTP program.

The CTP is a program where volunteers are trained to observe illegal activity taking place and report it. It is a passive "obligation" such that you take the training (1.5 hours) and when ever you go out on trail, if you spot something illegal occuring you take pictures and notes as to what is happening. Then you submit it and log the hours to the CTP program so they can note how many volunteer hours have been commited to the program.

Once an event is reported, the CTP people decide whether there is enough information to get successful legal action against the people and if so, they submit it to the FS LEO. This prevents 100 reports coming in on one trail and cause the trail to get shut down. Only reports that have enough merrit to get action done are submitted.

In addition, you are also a more trustworthy person when submitting information when it comes to legal battles. If you make a statement as to what happened, it is taking more seriously then just some random person.






Soooooo, the point of this thread is that Val is going to set up a training session with the Rock Frogs. Is anyone here interested in joining in on the training session?

It will most likely be in Janurary and it lasts for 1.5-2.5 hours.

Here is a quote from Val describing the program:
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The Colorado Trail Patrol is a group of volunteers that are trained on how to properly observe and report issues (road/trial damage, violators, dead animals like we find in lefthand not during hunting season, etc). The CTP is endorsed by the Colorado State Parks, BLM and Forest Service at the state level, so basically that equates to the CTP having more credibility on relaying issues than someone off the street. Why? Because we are organized.

Classes take about 2.5 hrs and you are walked through the do's and don'ts of the FS regulations, how to in detail describe a violator, and our nifty way of reporting (online). Hours volunteered are logged, issues are kept in the database, and only the hot items are relayed to the land manager (for reasons of not supplying too much info on one trail that it requires a closure) but we still log those hours as volunteer hours - which helps keep trails open because it shows we are on the ground doing our part to help out.


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Unread 12-19-2006, 11:11 AM   #2
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I'm supposed to be on Val's mailing list for the class, so that clinches me. I'll be there.
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Unread 12-19-2006, 01:01 PM   #3
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It sounds interesting. Can you post up the training date, time, and place? Thanks.
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Unread 12-19-2006, 01:06 PM   #4
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x2 on posting that up. I hadn't seen that thread yet, so thanks for the heads up. I'm definately in on that. The more people we can get to watch out for our trails, the better. Val is awesome at what she's been doing for wheelers in Colorado, and anything I can do to help, I'm in.
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Unread 12-19-2006, 01:09 PM   #5
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We don't have a date/time/place yet. I am gauging an interest from the rock frogs and JF. If we have enough she'll do one just for us.
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I'd like to attend.
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I would love to attend, the only stipulation is I have National Guard Duty on the 6-7 of January and again on the 19-21 January. I know, I know but how else am I going to pay for my upgrades.

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Unread 12-19-2006, 04:35 PM   #8
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Interested in this ...with reservations.
Not a big fan of trail nazi's.
Confrontation and humilation ain't my thing...
I would like to attend though.
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I would do it but I have a conflict with one of the rules of being a CTP.
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Interested in this ...with reservations.
Not a big fan of trail nazi's.
Confrontation and humilation ain't my thing...
I would like to attend though.
You don't confront people. It is purely observational. Observe & report. It is your choice as to what you report. If you see something fit to report, then you go ahead and do it. If not, then don't report it.

Newracer, what rule do you have a problem with?
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Unread 12-19-2006, 05:19 PM   #11
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This one.

The Colorado Trail Patrol does have one stipulation: No weapons of any kind while on patrol. NO EXCEPTIONS. This is a saftey and liability precaution.
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Ahhhhh yes...I thought that might be an issue with some.

Simple solution, don't be "on patrol" when carrying.

Edit: But then again, a lot of Jeepers always carry when on the trail...
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i suppose some people would rather 4 wheel in their driveways when trail get abused and closed than taking a pro active approch to keeping what you have open and available.
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I would never be "on patrol" then because I always carry.
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I would do it but I have a conflict with one of the rules of being a CTP.
You wouldn't be talking about the "NO GUNS" Rule would you.

Colorado came up with the make my day law for a reason.
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